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« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2007, 10:58:25 AM »
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So a different OS can make the internet faster???

Where's Al Gore when you need him?


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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2007, 05:25:36 PM »
Gore is busy burning up lots more fuel and electricity trying to find ways to tell folks how to live in a manner he refuses to.
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« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2007, 05:52:45 PM »
Any computer running better with Vista than on XP is only due to poor management of the XP installation.  There is no way Vista can run anything faster or better than XP.  Absolutely no way.

So when anyone says, "Vista made everything faster", then translate that to, "My XP installation was seriously messed up so I installed Vista so I could get a fresh start".

And there are serious compatibility problems with Vista, or MS would not be releasing patches to correct application compatibiity problems.  The last patch addressed 30 or 40 applications which had problems running under Vista.
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« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2007, 05:59:27 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2007, 06:00:48 PM »
I maybe building a new computer in a few months and have been thinking about putting Linux on it.  Is that a good idea for a gaming computer?
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« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2007, 06:09:30 PM »
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I maybe building a new computer in a few months and have been thinking about putting Linux on it.  Is that a good idea for a gaming computer?


2 drives or MS and Linux will headbutt and try to strangle each other on startup. Then partician the start up  Linux first on startup.  Or better yet,  you can hub two puters, each with a diff OS.

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« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2007, 06:11:27 PM »
If the game uses DirectX, the answer is no, but OpenGL games run fine. There are several distros of Linux that will suit most typical users for all other tasks - web browsing, email, music and video, etc. - so, you can have a clean WindowsXP for a DirectX games and use Linux for eveything else. You simply select which OS on startup.

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« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2007, 06:57:15 AM »
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Any computer running better with Vista than on XP is only due to poor management of the XP installation.  There is no way Vista can run anything faster or better than XP.  Absolutely no way.

So when anyone says, "Vista made everything faster", then translate that to, "My XP installation was seriously messed up so I installed Vista so I could get a fresh start".

And there are serious compatibility problems with Vista, or MS would not be releasing patches to correct application compatibiity problems.  The last patch addressed 30 or 40 applications which had problems running under Vista.


bite your tongue, you don't know everything skuzz, before you come all high and mighty, try a little research...

no need to use TCP Optimizer for Vista...ex: network stack, research that

and for the rest of you followers, switch to Linux if ya'll so damn scared of change...you will come back to MS eventually

still remember little kids Biatchin the same way when XP came out, now XP is the key, the platform to compare, stuff it, 2000 was better and still is better then XP...
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« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2007, 07:08:47 AM »
See Rule #4
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« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2007, 09:12:11 AM »
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Isn't that changing the way your computer reacts or interacts with the internet and not a change on the internet itself?
If I change from dialup to broadband I get a faster connection but I have not changed the internet one bit.
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« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2007, 10:44:04 AM »
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and for the rest of you followers, switch to Linux if ya'll so damn scared of change...you will come back to MS eventually


Yes, Yes of course MS has the "Divine Right" to rule the world.  If you speak against MS your a heretic and you'll be burned at the stake.

Is MS the leader of the "New World Order"?
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« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2007, 11:01:57 AM »
See Rule #4
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« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2007, 04:42:08 PM »
Catalyst, it is a phsyical impossibility for Vista to be faster than XP, given similar installations.

It is impossible for the 430+ threads Vista runs by default (and that is the low side count) to run faster than the 230+ threads XP runs by default, which is also on the low side count.

You cannot run more software on any given hardware platlform without sacrificing performance to the overall system.  It cannot be done.

it has been proven by many sites on the Internet, that given the same hardware, software runningunder Vista, will be approximately 25 to 35% slower, than running the same software on XP.

This is not about bashing MS, this is just a simple fact.  If your, or anyone else's computer, is running better under Vista that it did under XP, with the same software installed, then the installation of XP was fouled up.  It is a simple deduction based on the facts and backed up my many other sites on the Internet who have tested and compared the two operating systems.

I have already spent a good deal of time on Vista trying to get back as much performance as possible, and I still cannnot get close to the performance I had running Windows 2000.  See my sticky post in the Technical support forum about Vista performance tips.

If you have another explanation, please assert it.  As a side note, I do not know why you are getting all worked up about the fact that Vista is slower than XP.  This is something that has been known for a little while now.
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« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2007, 05:12:28 PM »
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bite your tongue, you don't know everything skuzz, before you come all high and mighty, try a little research...

no need to use TCP Optimizer for Vista...ex: network stack, research that

and for the rest of you followers, switch to Linux if ya'll so damn scared of change...you will come back to MS eventually

still remember little kids Biatchin the same way when XP came out, now XP is the key, the platform to compare, stuff it, 2000 was better and still is better then XP...


TCP Optimizer is a sign of other problems within your network (ie a scummy router). At the end of the day it makes only a minor difference in performance. Often when it helps in one area it creates performance issues in others. Increase your MTU size to better web performance, and it hurts gaming. Decrease your MTU size to help gaming performance, and it hurts downloads/browsing.

I haven't needed to touch tcp optimizer since Win 98.

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« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2007, 05:18:41 PM »
i use a TCP Optimizer for my XP...

i only used it to max out all the alloted bandwidth through my modem or something like that

the modem was set for 600KB/s i believe i have it set at 2000KB/s

i think using the Optimizer i could crank it up to 4000KB/s but i don't want to fubar anything
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