Author Topic: Hard lock-ups (Read 1155 times)

Bruv119 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 26, 2007, 01:19:39 PM »

I tried skuzzy he basically said the nvidia drivers are crap but if your using them trouble free its a biatch!

Hoarach · « **Reply #16 on:** March 26, 2007, 01:25:13 PM »

Take a look at this forum I started about my lockups with my 7600 GS. May work for you.

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=199142

HomeBoy · « **Reply #17 on:** March 26, 2007, 01:46:54 PM »

Realize one thing:

I built this machine from scratch. I reused nothing (except monitor, dvd, case). The HDs were brand new. Completely new install. Could it be that your machine is a "trail of updates" and that there is old stuff laying around somewhere? Just a thought.

I did however, copy my old Aces High II tree from my old machine over to my new one. Actually, I installed AH on the new machine (to get it registered properly in the registry) then deleted the directory tree before doing the copy.

Bruv119 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 26, 2007, 02:05:23 PM »

I built it from scratch too homeboy.

only thing i copied in were the sounds and settings folder.

Fresh downloads of AH and hi res pack.

On my next day off i'm going to have another serious crack at it. Just annoying as hell that AH is the only game it does it with. I just gave up in the end. I still play fine for hours but it may do the glitch thing twice a day. As long as i'm not in the middle of a furball I can put it on autopilot, alt tab and it re-loads after 30 secs or so....

Specs:
E6600
enermax 620w liberty PSU
2 gig ddr2-800
250gb HD
Asus cant remember the board
8800GTS 640mb
22" LCD widescreen

Bruv
~S~

Casper1 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 26, 2007, 02:32:02 PM »

Just a note guys -

When talking about PSUs, wattage does NOT matter nearly as much as the quality of the PSU in terms of its 12v and 5v rails and the Amperage on those rails...

For example, I chucked a 500W 'el-cheapo' RAIDMAX for a 350W Sparkle PSU and saw an instant increase in stability in-game. My PC now hardlocks maybe once every 2 months versus 1-2 times per week.

Read up here for more info...

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/t136602.html

I would highly suggest a higher quality PSU at lower wattage thank a 650W whatever PSU.

I do not know the specs the squality attributes of the aforementioned ENERMAX PSUs, so please do not take this post as meaning your PSU should be replaced...they may be just fine...

I just wanted to point this out since I had alot of hardlock problems until i swapped out my PSU for a hiogher quality one.

HomeBoy · « **Reply #20 on:** March 26, 2007, 02:46:11 PM »

Good point about the PSU. Dirty power can do some strange things to your system. Maybe you have a flaky PSU. I doubt that though. There is a better possibility that you have a flaky 8800. Can't rule that out I suppose. I know you say you only see this problem in AH and in no other game, but, if you're like the rest of us, how much time do you really spend in any other game?

Have you tried more "standard" vid resolutions e.g. 1280x1024 or 1024x768? That is one difference between yours and mine. I have just a standard old 19" crt.

Sorry, I know I'm shooting in the dark at this point. Running out of ideas.

38ruk · « **Reply #21 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:10:56 AM »

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Just wondering if the AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor Driver for Windows XP works with a AMD Opteron™ Processor. Is it for both types of dual cores, is the X2 the same as the Opteron as far as this driver is concerned?

That is a good question . IIRC the opterons and X2 have some differences in the memory controllers , other than that i think they support more ram due to being a server chip. I'll have too look around for concrete data cause i read that along time ago .

Source

All Opteron models come with three HyperTransport links (vs. a single link for Athlon 64). On single-processor Opterons, the links are connect only to the I/O devices. On dual-processing Opterons, one link connects to the other processor, and two links connect to I/O devices. On multi-processing Opterons (for 4- and 8-way configurations) the links can connect to other processors or to I/O devices, as designed by the motherboard manufacturer. When choosing an Opteron processor, the model number indicates whether the chip is 1-, 2-, or multi-way compatible. Figure 1 explains how these model numbers are assigned.

As to RAM, the Opteron processors can support up to eight DIMMs. Using today's most common configuration, this means Opteron systems max out at 8GB of supported RAM per processor. Opteron systems require registered DIMMs, which contain embedded registers to properly marshal data to the processors and circuitry to better propagate the incoming signal to the entire memory module. As a result, registered memory is more reliable and less prone to errors than other memory designs. Registered memory most often is found in servers precisely because of this reliability.

EDIT X 2

Eagler , there is a XP DRIVER espessially made for the Opty , try that and see if it helps .

~~http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_9033,00.html~~

Eagler · « **Reply #22 on:** March 27, 2007, 05:42:55 AM »

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Originally posted by 38ruk
Eagler , there is a XP DRIVER espessially made for the Opty , try that and see if it helps .

~~http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_9033,00.html~~

39ruk
thanks for the research and info. I do not see the XP driver for an Opteron on the link you provided. I see one for Linux. Can you tell me which one you are refering to?
thanks

Bruv119 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 27, 2007, 08:58:52 AM »

In response to casper. I researched the PSU in depth before buying one and I didn't hold back on the money for it (have had issues with el cheapo ones before

. From all the things I read on it the specs everything is more than enough for a 8800.

Homeboy I can't really try any other resolutions because of the widescreen monitor which the native res is 1680 x 1050. anything else looks silly. I'm all for trying the clipped black bar on sides aspect ratio but don't really know what exact resolution to add into the video file for this.

As I still suspect it to be a driver issue or conflict I went through this morning and removed everything, used driver cleaner and re loaded the CD drivers. Maybe something went funny in the time spent racking my brains out trying all sorts of stuff to get it fixed. Briefly loaded BF2 With 16x AA and everything else maxed and looked so silky smooth. Before with the CD drivers this game would lock up after about 5 minutes of play time. So I must have fixed something but just need more time to test AH.

Eagler · « **Reply #24 on:** March 27, 2007, 09:32:43 AM »

sorry 38ruk misspelled your handle

I tried a sortie last night using my trackir and it locked up solid after about 10 minutes of flight...
I read in the sticky in the hardware forum about two AMD optimizers, one dated June 06 and the other Nov 06. It was saying some have issues with the Nov06 rev. I found the June06 version and installed it after uninstalling the Nov06 one I had.
After that change I was able to fly 3 sorties b4 I had to log off without a lockup. Alittle while later I logged in again with the trackir on and was able to get two more sorties in before I had to log. They were lockup free sorties as well.

The June06 version is located on this page

I will keep you posted as to my progress as it is too soon to claim victory

HomeBoy · « **Reply #25 on:** March 27, 2007, 09:40:15 AM »

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Originally posted by Bruv119
... So I must have fixed something but just need more time to test AH.

Progress then I guess (hope)!

HomeBoy · « **Reply #26 on:** March 27, 2007, 10:01:17 AM »

Bruv,
This is a little off topic and something for when you've got everything solved. Would you be so kind as to post your graphics settings for your 8800? I have just played around with them a little but don't know what I should set them to. I have opted to use the "Balanced" setting just out of laziness and desire to get up and running. I would like to fine tune my graphics settings though so I get the most out of this card. Not trying to treat you like you're the graphics expert or anything but you seem to understand it better than I do.

No rush. Just when you get settled.

thanks
-hb

Bruv119 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 27, 2007, 10:17:13 AM »

ahh homeboy I'm no geek I know the hardware side and how to adapt the settings. I'm at work now so i will reply

Basically Nvidia are a bit odd. if you open up the nvidia control panel you can look up the Aces high profile and play around with some of the settings. I found this a bit weird I used my ATI card for years and their control panel was nicely laid out and you could easily find what your looking for.

A nice program that i downloaded the other day is called 'nhancer' it stores profiles for indivadual games and explains what each setting does.

Basically look for AA (Anti aliasing) 4 times will make stuff look much smoother in game but our card can go up to 16x with different methods of sampling. Anisoptric filtering 16x is max. You could try and play with v-sync turned off to get much higher frame rates but it doesnt look as smooth on my monitor...

HomeBoy · « **Reply #28 on:** March 27, 2007, 10:29:02 AM »

Hey, great Bruv. Thanks. Looks like nhancer may be all the help I need.

38ruk · « **Reply #29 on:** March 27, 2007, 09:33:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
39ruk
thanks for the research and info. I do not see the XP driver for an Opteron on the link you provided. I see one for Linux. Can you tell me which one you are refering to?
thanks

Its the third one up from the bottom , here is the title .

AMD Opteron™ Processor with AMD PowerNow!™ Technology Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (x86 and x64 exe) 1.3.2.16

It's date is july 2006 Good luck