Author Topic: b25 variants... (Read 999 times)

Citabria · « **on:** March 27, 2007, 06:41:00 PM »

im gonna vote for b25 because the variants are great. even if its only the b25J and b25H that will rule.

come on how much fun is it to take a 75mm tank gun and strap it to a bomber and blow stuff up

68Ripper · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2007, 09:52:54 AM »

The ultimate GV buster, but I could definately see problems arising as everyone would up these in a GV attack and the GV's would get slaughtered. I would say you would almost have to put a High perk price on it or GVing fun will be history.

4deck · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2007, 09:58:01 AM »

A26 I dont think your gonna see that type of weapon in the B25 but the a26 now theres a gv killer.

Bronk · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2007, 10:02:07 AM »

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Originally posted by 68Ripper
The ultimate GV buster, but I could definately see problems arising as everyone would up these in a GV attack and the GV's would get slaughtered. I would say you would almost have to put a High perk price on it or GVing fun will be history.

HE rounds not AP. Only soft GV need fear.

As the B-25 with the 75 mm main target was supply shipping.

Bronk

68Ripper · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2007, 11:16:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
HE rounds not AP. Only soft GV need fear.

As the B-25 with the 75 mm main target was supply shipping.

Bronk

But it also has 18 guns, 12 of which are at the buisness end of the plane. the other 6 are (2) upper turret, (2) underbelly turret and (2) tail gun. If I recall correctly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-25_Mitchell

See the "J" variant and it was waist guns not underbelly turret "my bad"

Krusty · « **Reply #5 on:** March 28, 2007, 11:19:00 AM »

Only early B/Cs had a remote belly turret. It was quickly removed in the field as it was completely ineffective, and a dead weight. You won't find it on any B-25 we get.

Bronk · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2007, 11:23:34 AM »

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Originally posted by 68Ripper
But it also has 18 guns, 12 of which are at the buisness end of the plane. the other 6 are (2) upper turret, (2) underbelly turret and (2) tail gun. If I recall correctly.

Whats your point?

Tanks have nothing to fear from .50 cal. (Other than ringing in the ears from pings)

Only SOFT GV need fear.

Bronk

Krusty · « **Reply #7 on:** March 28, 2007, 11:36:07 AM »

It's got a tricycle landing gear >:D

Wouldn't it be nice to land by an enemy town, aim the nose at a building and pop it with 75mm?

(*insert evil grin here*)

68Ripper · « **Reply #8 on:** March 28, 2007, 11:39:21 AM »

the B-25 G and H had the 75mm
The 75mm cannon fired at a muzzle velocity of 2,362 fps, about 720 m/s.

And you don't think that HE rounds fired at a tank will do any damage?? An M8 can take out a Panzer and occaisionally a Tiger if not disable it. And it doesn't take the M8 that many rounds to kill a Panzer.

Bronk · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2007, 11:56:36 AM »

Please post a film of you killing ANY tank with HE rounds

Not you stacking damage up on the tracks and being awarded kill , when someone else pierces armor.

I'd love to see it.

Bronk

Krusty · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2007, 11:59:49 AM »

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Originally posted by 68Ripper
the B-25 G and H had the 75mm
The 75mm cannon fired at a muzzle velocity of 2,362 fps, about 720 m/s.

And you don't think that HE rounds fired at a tank will do any damage?? An M8 can take out a Panzer and occaisionally a Tiger if not disable it. And it doesn't take the M8 that many rounds to kill a Panzer.

First of all, M-8 has AP rounds. Second of all, you might be able to track a tank then shoot into the underside of the turret from the still-tracked side, but that's more of a game exploit (or, do you think real tracked tanks automatically pitched 45 degrees for no reason??)

I fired 10 HE rounds at a panzer (from a panzer) once. All I did was track him, and let him know where I was. He popped me in a single AP hit.

It is a fact that the 75mm on the B-25, IF it's modeled, will NOT kill tanks. LVTs, M3s, M8s, maybe.... Battle tanks, the T-34, the Panzer, the Tiger, and now the Firefly, will be all but immune to it (depending on how weak the Firefly's armor is modeled). Ostwinds, being modeled off the Panzer chassis, will also be immune. You might take out their open topped turret, though.

Hornet33 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2007, 12:06:55 PM »

All I have to say is..........

PARA FRAGS!!!!! Got to have them.

96Delta · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2007, 12:13:20 PM »

Perked B-25H would be fine by me.
What else am I going to use my bomber perkies on?

Not the Ar234.
That has no value in any ground support role.

Nope, the B-25H is what I think I'll be settling on.
(if that variant is offered)

David

Krusty · « **Reply #13 on:** March 28, 2007, 12:13:22 PM »

Don't think they'd have much use. We already have enough NOE suicide bombers as-is.... Carpet bombing runways with parafrags in the hopes of a single vulch won't add anything to the game.

Against a town or strat they'd be pretty ineffective, as the chutes added drag and made them "area" bombs, not precision bombs.

While a nice novelty weapon (in the context of this game) I don't see much benefit from their inclusion. I don't see any benefit, in fact. Maybe I'm missing it?

Hornet33 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 28, 2007, 12:26:11 PM »

Well a para frag would be about the same weight as a 5" HE shell. Couple of those will take a town building down no problem. Fly in low over the town, drop a string, loop around make anouther pass and before you know it the town is down. They would also be good for de-acking a field considering the amount of the things that could be carried. I recall reading some where that a B-25 could carry upwards of 60 of the things. That's some pretty good fire power when you think about it. Plus because of the chute you don't have to worry about fragging your own plane on a low level pass.