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Offline JAWS2003

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The only major ww2 Power that has no bomber in AH is Russia.
« on: March 28, 2007, 12:21:35 PM »
Vote for a Russian bomber.
No other aircraft in that list is more needed then a Russian bomber.

I'm not Russian and I don't like their planes much.
But.

 They are one of the  two strongest powers engaged in WW2. They did the most damage to the germans in ww2 and they lost the most lives.:(
I think the red airforce is really poorly represented in AH.
Is really sad to make Russian front missions with only bostons and A20s.


 I would have liked to see an early Russian fighter coming to the game like the Yak1/1b, Mig3, or even I-16, because the war on the eastern front didn't start in 1943 but in 1941. :cry

 Out of the list of planes that was posted one of the russian bombers should be in the first, simply because there's no Russian bomber in the game.

 Out of the two that have a chance to get in, Pe-2 and Tu-2  the first one saw more action( around 11,400 Pe-2s were built). Fast and capable to carry big bomb load plus forwarf firing weapons. It did it all from heavy fighter to dive bombing, level bombing and strafing.

 The second one is a very fast later war bomber  that would fit better  in the usually popular late war arenas.
 One of the fasterst ww2 bombers capable to carry 4000KG of bombs.  2257 Tu-2s were built and were in use even in korean war.

Pe-2
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Tu-2
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[ http://avia.russian.ee/air/russia/tu-2.php

As much as i would like to see a Me410 in the game:p,  I think one of this two planes are the missing link from AH.:p
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The only major ww2 Power that has no bomber in AH is Russia.
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2007, 12:22:56 PM »
I suppose one could argue the Il-2 is indeed a "ground attack" platform and not strictly a bomber.

The Pe/Tu 2s were very capable and fast bombers,  no chance though it doesn't have a white star on it.

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2007, 12:23:58 PM »
They've got all kinds of Lend Lease A20s!
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2007, 12:24:24 PM »
The Il2 is a bomber aint it?

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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2007, 12:27:23 PM »
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They've got all kinds of Lend Lease A20s!


Do you think USSR fought a war only with A20's?

Over 1100 Pe2's were built. Why would we ignore this kind of numbers and replace them with planes from another country.

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2007, 12:28:13 PM »
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The Il2 is a bomber aint it?


Il-2 is not qualifying as a bomber in AH because it can't level bomb and can't use formations.

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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2007, 12:30:48 PM »
Oh yeah? So how come when all the fighter hangers are destroyed I can still up an Il2? Hmmmm?

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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2007, 12:32:57 PM »
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They did the most damage to the germans in ww2

Nothing against russia's WWII efforts.
But how much strat bombing did they do?


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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2007, 12:35:09 PM »
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Oh yeah? So how come when all the fighter hangers are destroyed I can still up an Il2? Hmmmm?


Good point!

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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2007, 12:37:17 PM »
Pe2 and Tu2 were not accomplished level bombers. Both were dive bombers. Hence the light bombloads. I'm sure they *could* level bomb, but did they even have bombsights? Pe-2, as far as I can remember, didn't have one. It had a nice glass nose so the pilot could aim better as he was diving. There was a crew of 2 and later 3, none of which included a bombadier.

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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2007, 12:39:05 PM »
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Nothing against russia's WWII efforts.
But how much strat bombing did they do?


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Enough to deserve one Twin engine bomber in a game that already has six allied bombers from the west.

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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2007, 12:41:57 PM »
If you are going on sheer numbers produced, then the B-25 is the best choice as the Russians flew droves of those as well.
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2007, 12:45:38 PM »
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Enough to deserve one Twin engine bomber in a game that already has six allied bombers from the west.


Please point me to a read of Russia's strat bombing campaign.
Being serious here.

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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2007, 12:46:33 PM »
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Pe2 and Tu2 were not accomplished level bombers. Both were dive bombers. Hence the light bombloads. I'm sure they *could* level bomb, but did they even have bombsights? Pe-2, as far as I can remember, didn't have one. It had a nice glass nose so the pilot could aim better as he was diving. There was a crew of 2 and later 3, none of which included a bombadier.


While the fiat G55 was built in how many airframes? 150? 170?
 can you compare that with over 11000 Pe-2's?

All the AH needs is another "too little and too late" late war furballer.
 
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2007, 12:49:04 PM »
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If you are going on sheer numbers produced, then the B-25 is the best choice as the Russians flew droves of those as well.


Completely agree with that.

 The only thing is that there are few more US multi engine bombers already in game, while the Russians have none.