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Offline Dago

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« on: March 29, 2007, 07:55:57 PM »
Gerry Steckmyer and his wife awoke to a loud commotion and were shocked by what they saw out their bedroom window—a deranged man was shouting and jumping on the roof of their car. Police say that when Mr. Steckmyer opened the window and shouted at the man to get off the car, the man walked toward the house and started trying to break in. He kicked the home’s front door and slammed his shoulder into it. Steckmyer repeatedly told the man to leave and warned that police were on the way, but there was no stopping the man’s odd behavior. He grabbed a 5-gallon water cooler bottle, smashed in a window and entered the home. When the intruder neared the master bedroom, Steckmyer shot him with a handgun, killing him. (The Press Democrat, Santa Rosa, CA, 12/18/06)

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A 21-year-old man was eating pizza with his mother and a friend when someone knocked on the door. According to police, when the friend opened the door, two intruders burst inside and put a gun to his head. The man’s mother sought refuge in a bedroom while he ran downstairs to retrieve a firearm. Confused, one of the intruders asked where everyone went, then said he’d kill anyone he found. In response to the threat, the 21-year-old reemerged, shooting and killing one intruder and causing his accomplice to flee. (Post-Tribune, Merrillville, IN, 12/03/06)

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Police say a 16-year-old gang member wearing a ski mask and toting a .22 rifle knocked on a front door north of Chicago one night. Inside,
Saffiyya Darr and her husband called out to ask who it was, but got no reply. Several minutes later they heard a loud sound coming from their back door, and Darr ran to her bedroom to get a 9 mm pistol. When the suspect forced his way inside, she shot him twice. He died at the scene. “If you are sitting at home at night and someone kicks the door open, you have the right to defend yourself,” said Police Chief Douglas Malcolm. (Lake
Country News-Sun, Waukegan, IL, 12/04/06)

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There is a sign on Abel Sisneros’ home warning, “Nothing inside is worth risking your life for. Owners of this property are highly skilled to protect life, liberty and property from criminal attacks.” Authorities, however, say an intruder failed to heed the warning. Sisneros heard a pounding at the front door and grabbed his 9 mm handgun as a precaution. He was at the top of the stairs when the suspect broke through the locked front door. Sisneros fired two shots. The wounded burglar groaned and ran to the back of the house until police arrested him. “He couldn’t get out of the back [of the home], and he knew I was still in the front of the house, so he was trapped,” Sisneros explained. (The Fort-Worth Star-Telegram, Fort Worth, TX, 12/22/06)

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Upon witnessing someone breaking into his neighbor’s home, a man immediately called the couple who live there. Police say the couple immediately returned home and found the burglar inside trying to remove a television set. The male homeowner confronted the suspect, who drew a pocketknife and struck the homeowner’s hand, cutting him. That’s when the homeowner pulled a .22 pistol and fired two shots, wounding the intruder and causing him to flee. He was later apprehended. When a local reporter asked Knoxville, Tenn., policeman Mark Pressley the impertinent question of whether the couple would be charged in the incident, he replied, “They’re kind of the innocent victims here. They’ve had enough problems.” (News Sentinel, Knoxville, TN, 12/30/06)

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Police say a 17-year-old boy was home with his cousin when four armed men kicked in the door and started shooting. The teen rushed to grab his shotgun and fired at his assailants, killing two of them. The other suspects fled, but were later apprehended. “Truthfully, it was either them or me,” said the teen. “I’m thankful to be standing here today. I thank God.”
(KHOU 11 News, Houston, TX, 12/28/06)
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2007, 08:02:50 PM »
curval should be here shortly to post some stories about people being shot with less happy endings. ;)

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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2007, 08:21:14 PM »
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curval should be here shortly to post some stories about people being shot with less happy endings. ;)


Why would you say that?

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In the U.S. for 2001, there were 29,573 deaths from firearms, distributed as follows by mode of death: Suicide 16,869; Homicide 11,348; Accident 802; Legal Intervention 323; Undetermined 231.(CDC, 2004) This makes firearms injuries one of the top ten causes of death in the U.S.


From the University of Utah Library of Medicine
http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNINTRO.html

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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2007, 08:23:18 PM »
"Guns don't kill people.  APES with guns kill people." - Charles Heston, NRA

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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2007, 08:33:47 PM »
If you, your wife, and your children are sleeping at home one night and an intruder breaks in; and hes after more than just some jewelry;  statistics about gun deaths will all of a sudden seem pretty insignificant.

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2007, 08:37:01 PM »
or how to use your cricket bat and a pair of slightly soiled pink bermuda shorts to defeat any scooter thief.

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2007, 08:39:40 PM »
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If you, your wife, and your children are sleeping at home one night and an intruder breaks in; and hes after more than just some jewelry;  statistics about gun deaths will all of a sudden seem pretty insignificant.



Yeah, but I'm living single, and something tells me if I use the modified SKS in my defense, rather than one of the pistols, or shotgun, the local Asst DA will try to fry me.

What I really hate are all the "retreat" arguments that are prevalent in some areas.   If you have a chance to retreat.  If you have a chance to get away, or get out of YOUR house that is being invaded, that is the course you are supposed to take before taking the life of the intruder.

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2007, 08:40:04 PM »
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This makes firearms injuries one of the top ten causes of death in the U.S.


Wow! That's even higher than like heart disease and stuff.

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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2007, 08:42:44 PM »
Then use the pistol







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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2007, 08:44:19 PM »
what are the other nine leading causes of death in the United States dynamite?

Lets have a full bodied discussion on all ten leading causes of death so that we might develop a better understanding of the problems affecting Amercians.
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2007, 08:46:39 PM »
here in my beloved florida if you frighten me I can kill you with whatever means available anywhere in town.  people are very polite now in my beloved florida, even transplants from blue states.

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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2007, 08:47:21 PM »
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In the U.S. for 2001, there were 29,573 deaths from firearms, distributed as follows by mode of death: Suicide 16,869; Homicide 11,348; Accident 802; Legal Intervention 323; Undetermined 231.(CDC, 2004) This makes firearms injuries one of the top ten causes of death in the U.S.


Well I'd take suicide off that right off the bat, they were suicides FFS, if they didn't use a firearm then the Fire department's would have to do a lot more cleanups at the bottom of tall buildings.

Other than that, 12k or so isn't all that bad for a nation thats supposedly this violent and this large

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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2007, 08:51:11 PM »
the homiocides are misleading as well.  consider how many are thug v thug death matches usually commited with illegally acquired firearms.  these aren't really crimes, they should be categorized as community service.

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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2007, 08:54:40 PM »
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what are the other nine leading causes of death in the United States dynamite?

Lets have a full bodied discussion on all ten leading causes of death so that we might develop a better understanding of the problems affecting Amercians.


I would like to see that information too....

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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2007, 09:07:49 PM »
How thats a big suicide rate in America for guns. Just think how many there are for hanging, jumping, or other forms. Why do we Americans hate ourselves so much?

That is something I'm worried about to. I have an SKS in my room incase someone breaks in. My neigborhood seats on a major traveled city road and my house is the first on the left. My house has been broken in once, and there have been about 4 attempts of break-ins. My dad has gotten his car stolen, and things stolen out of his car. I got a radio stolen out of my jeep. Thats why I keep the SKS in my room, but I'm worried that when I shot the intruder, or kill he/she the police will come and ask, What kind of gun did you use? Your bullets went threw the person, and threw the house? I used my SKS officer. Sir please turn around and put your hands behind your back! Would they take my SKS? I don't think they would.

I use a 123 GR Full Metal Jacket ammo. Isn't that kind of Armor piercing round with the copper cover?
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