Author Topic: Time to help the Me-410 (Read 10824 times)

Viking · « **Reply #150 on:** April 02, 2007, 11:42:53 PM »

Yes, click on "scores" under the "community" tab, then click on "View Kill Stats in an expanded format (IE only)".

Edit: On second thought, no. Only total kills in a plane/of a plane.

moot · « **Reply #151 on:** April 03, 2007, 12:29:56 AM »

Dang.. because I might've skewed that mossie stat

I'm pretty sure I've shot about 15-20 P38Ls in the mossie, last tour.

Viking · « **Reply #152 on:** April 03, 2007, 12:37:56 AM »

moot · « **Reply #153 on:** April 03, 2007, 06:54:40 AM »

Here's one.. I set up two or three killshots, and hesitate to pull the trigger when it's time to, or miscorrect where the nose is pointing.
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/773_1175601274_film468_38l-moss.zip

Viking · « **Reply #154 on:** April 03, 2007, 09:11:34 AM »

Nice moves ... but crappy shooting.

Viking · « **Reply #155 on:** April 03, 2007, 09:35:36 AM »

I first started flying the 110G when I flew with the JBs back in 2003. We used it mostly for JaBo work, but being more interested in the air war part of AH I started flying it as a pure fighter. This was a time when very few people flew it at all, let alone as a fighter. Made a few "commemorative" screenshots back then:

And of course the 109F

Gianlupo · « **Reply #156 on:** April 03, 2007, 11:05:57 AM »

Lol at the captions!

Viking · « **Reply #157 on:** April 03, 2007, 03:05:40 PM »

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Originally posted by moot
Here's one.. I set up two or three killshots, and hesitate to pull the trigger when it's time to, or miscorrect where the nose is pointing.
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/773_1175601274_film468_38l-moss.zip

Here's a good one from today. Had this great 5 minute knife-fight with a 109F-4 ... that guy was no rookie. When you see me go to tail guns He had gotten one of my elevators, but to my surprise the 110G can still pull stall-turns at low speeds with only one elevator ... to his surprise too.

My gunnery suxorz today though. Should have had him at least two times early in the fight.

110G vs 109F

Widewing · « **Reply #158 on:** April 03, 2007, 06:25:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
Here's a good one from today. Had this great 5 minute knife-fight with a 109F-4 ... that guy was no rookie. When you see me go to tail guns He had gotten one of my elevators, but to my surprise the 110G can still pull stall-turns at low speeds with only one elevator ... to his surprise too.

My gunnery suxorz today though. Should have had him at least two times early in the fight.

110G vs 109F

I watched the film. You did alright, managing to avoid the dreaded departure that plagues the 110s when pushed hard. However, winzig had a miserable time. Especially when you went into the right-hand lufbery. Flown well, the 109F-4 will turn much smaller circles than the 110G-2 (especially one missing an elevator). Also, all he had to do was yo-yo and drop in behind. In a right-hand turn, the 109s require some skill to hold the tightest turn. Mr. winzig repeatedly suffered from accelerated stalls throughout the fight, including the one that caused him to eat the trees. He should head to the TA and practice dueling with the Trainers. 1v1 combat requires somewhat different skills than the usual MA mob brawls.

I have several good 109F films, duels with Nomak, Dmonslyr, Sonic23 and several others. All will demonstrate what the 109F is capable of with practice and a gentle hand on the controls. 109s don't like to be horsed around or they will dump a wing and get feisty in a heartbeat, as winzig learned.

My regards,

Widewing

Viking · « **Reply #159 on:** April 03, 2007, 06:50:51 PM »

I'm an old 109F driver myself so I was very surprised that I could hold the turn with him. However I deliberately turned to the right knowing that his single prop would give him more trouble than my twin in right-hand turns. In fact the 110G only has a 34 foot larger turning circle than the 109F with flaps, and I had very little fuel left. The little things must have added up and saved my butt.

I really should have killed him earlier though, my gunnery suxed bad, and I shouldn’t have let him force the overshoot, that nearly killed me. I also managed to get picked off by a Lala ( Gator!) today RTB’ing with two ailerons missing. Not my day

humble · « **Reply #160 on:** April 04, 2007, 03:58:41 PM »

to be honest Viking that fight should have been over at the 2:30 mark. He nailed you twice in the scissors....however he went flat afterward instead of taking the fight in the vertical....you were totally flat vs his scissors so he could have topped you out easily but didnt recognize it...you had a 5k alt advantage and didnt get a shot in....not a very good set up on your part...u ended up neg E and dependent on the other guys skill level.

As WW said if the other guy had a bit more knowledge to work with he'd have countered your right hander with minimal difficulty....

BTW....no clue where I got the 28lb wingloading from...either a typo (ment 38?) or I was delusional {or looking at something else [maybe IL-2?]}...anyway no way the wingloading would be that low. As for the 38, since the fowler flaps work differently I dont know that an "apples to apples" comparision makes any sense.

moot · « **Reply #161 on:** April 04, 2007, 04:57:15 PM »

Fowler flaps indeed ..

humble · « **Reply #162 on:** April 04, 2007, 06:23:32 PM »

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Fowler flaps indeed ..

sorry if I have them misnamed....however I believe the point is valid.

Viking · « **Reply #163 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:15:02 PM »

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Originally posted by humble
to be honest Viking that fight should have been over at the 2:30 mark. He nailed you twice in the scissors....however he went flat afterward instead of taking the fight in the vertical....you were totally flat vs his scissors so he could have topped you out easily but didnt recognize it...you had a 5k alt advantage and didnt get a shot in....not a very good set up on your part...u ended up neg E and dependent on the other guys skill level.

Indeed, I completely blew my E advantage. Like I said earlier I should have killed him twice before the overshoot.

moot · « **Reply #164 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:21:51 PM »

I'm guessing the spelling too. I mean to say, fowler flaps are what made the 38, in AH.
The 84 has them too, and it is great too.. I wonder what some planes like the 190D would be like with fowlers instead.. and why fowlers weren't more common.
If I understand right, their advantage is that they extend the wing area, in addition to increasing the AoA on a portion of the wing. If that's the case, I don't understand why they weren't a no brainer for at least a few of the LW planes...