Originally posted by Viking
Oh, nice lawyer move Mr. “The Hs 129 was only real attack aircraft and it was romanian...not german. 853 HS129s were built all all were in romanian service...none with the Luftwaffe.” 
If you can’t attack my arguments, attack my credibility.
The difference between you and me is I admit it when I’m wrong and give credit where it’s due. Like I did earlier in this very thread:
your the one "Attacking" your own credibility. I've NEVER seen you man up and "give credit". Please show me where you corrected your comment regarding Mark Hanna...you "called me out" and you were wrong.
Here you've "called me out" twice...possibly three times. I've responded in topic on all three.
1) The P-38 is a historically recognized fighter with a quality record....I see know data that supports your contention that the 410 can compete with the 38....either IRL or AH in a fighter role (the 110 cant even do that). I also see no data that supports a "loaded weight" less then the P-38. Both of these are simply wishful thinking on your part.
2) You originally asked me to name one "experten" shot down by a 38....I gave you one in a few minutes and told you there are more ...
3) you called me a liar so I showed you (again quickly) multiple cases of 38s downing german fighter pilots....I also posted the record of a single squad for a single month that shows typical activity and supports my comment above regarding the action between siefert and acosta that 4 other germans fell to the 38's on that day.
As is typical you hide behind nit picking and posturing instead of just manning up and saying you were mistaken. The 38 inflicted significant casualties on the luftwaffe and absorbed staggering losses in return. Only 3 of the original cadre from the 55th FG survived the 300 hr tour of duty. someone like you who only looks to find what you want will say thats due to the planes inferiority....as is normally the case the realities are more complicated. The FG's flying the 38 actually did the bulk of deep escort until the operational arrival of the P-51 in 1944. Often they had only 5 minutes of "combat power" for the entire flight. Many planes were lost due to fuel starvation and the 38's inability to fly a loose escort. On those occasions the 38 met the luftwaffe "fighter sweep to fighter sweep" the 38 held its own very well....especially considering that in 1943 and early 1944 the overall quality of the luftwaffe was at its highest point in the west. No shortcuts in training were taken and most units in the west were predominanty manned by seasoned vets. The 55th G alone claimed roughly 150 kills on 109's and 190's (air to air) with numerous other "damage/probable's" even if only 10% of those kills were "aces" that would be roughly 15 that fell to just 1 group. You simply have no statistical arquement that supports your position.
As for the 410, I am unaware of any data that shows "fighter like" performance. The plane is heavier then the 38, bigger then the 38, slower then the 38 and has heavier wingloading and a slower rate of climb then the 38.....it just isnt going to fly like a 38.
