ARCADE / POINT side of this game

[Phil]

Hey all !

I've been playing the game for 6mths.
Love it very much ! Addicted? I think so ! (average 80hrs/mth)

Seen and heard lots of good and bad !
Good & Bad players; sore losers; accusations; strange weird scenarios etc...
I'm enjoying the game very much !
HTC


I've noticed that some players do SAD things because of their RANKS/SCORES !:(

I respect that some of us love the competition and some don't give it priority.
For those players that don't give a hoot about rankings, why can't we simply be taken off the RANK scoreboard ?
The scores can only be seen by the player himself.
The points / perks can still be added accordingly....
At the begining of each month, the player would select if he wishes to get on the board or not
Viewing his personal(hidden) scores, the player can rank himself among the ones that are showing etc.

What I'm seing at this time is players being judged by others by looking at the ranks. If the pilot is good, "He must of been cheating !"
If the pilot as low rankings, "maybe I should wait before letting him in on the squadron..."
If the pilot is an TOP SCORING ACE, others will back out of a dual...

I'm an average fighter pilot.
I'm a fair bomber pilot
I'm a good gunner
As for GVs, we won't go there

Mmm not sure what kind of responce I'm gonna get from this.
Is there more players outhere that agree with the above?

Keep in mind that I have respect for players who like the STRONG COMPETITION. Showing off their ranks is fine with me !

Why can't the pilots simply be classified in a CLASS / GROUP ?
Once the points have reached certain amount, the pilots would move up the ranks... Without assigning specific numbers, he would simply be assigned a military rank or group.  "A" pilot or "B" pilot classes

Open for input.
HT ??

Phil

[moot]

Welcome!

Not caring about your score should be synonymous to not caring what others think about it...
Those players that make a big deal about it in any way (cheating calls, duel skidmarks, etc), shouldn't mean much to you.  There's enough freedom allowed in the game to plainly ignore those players who attempt to give you grief for the numbers in your score report card.

Raw statistics are facts, and are more veracious than a pigeonhole "A", "B", etc classification.  

Going on a tangent, it would be cool for HT to give us the post-flight stats report he mentionned was on his to-do list a long time ago... it would be more useful to some people than whole-tour cumulative statistics as we have now.

[Nshizawa]

I like the idea.

[moot]

Which one?

[-CodyC]

I can see where you're coming from.  I've gone into the DA a couple times when there were 15+ people there and no one would respond to requests to fight.  I guess maybe our rank signals how much of a challenge we are and not what we view as important for us to have fun playing the game, which may result in a lower rank.

If my rank is affecting my ability to get duels in the DA then i would agree, otherwise i could care less.

lwcody

[Tilt]

Actually he has a point.

Why should participation in the rank competition and therefore the public dessemination of an individuals score be compulsary?

[Yippee38]

Originally posted by Tilt
Actually he has a point.

Why should participation in the rank competition and therefore the public dessemination of an individuals score be compulsary?

But if you don't care, you shouldn't care.

[FiLtH]

"For those players that don't give a hoot about rankings, why can't we simply be taken off the RANK scoreboard ?"



    I don't give a hoot...thats why I'm NOT on the scoreboards

[Phil]

Moot...

Its true, I don't really care about my own scores. I used them as tools...
Personal tools. With my stats, I can see that I'm improving with time....

But what I see more and more is teamates doing selfish actions because of their scores on the board !!!

Ex: Flying formation with 15 X B17's
      The lead bomber made a comment such as: "Keeping in formation will make me miss half the target and it will affect my score !!"
Some pilots were having minor problems keeping in tight formation for the purpose of having a strong defensive stance. The lead bomber pilot was more interested in his POINTS
Too bad, this guy is an awesome pilot with skills. Obviously I saw where he stood when it comes to squadron priority.... Ah well ! That's his choice and I respect  that !
If the score board would classify him in the ADVANCE class bomber pilots, I don't think he would be that muticulous about his points. Belonging to a certain class would give you some point range etc... A= 90% - %100 hitting targets   70% to 89% = B class etc....
Same goes with other groups(fighters / GVs)

Your comments ?

Phil

[pluck]

guess i can see both sides.  i personally don't fly for score, i don't care how my score appears to others, nor do i care what conclusions anyone wants to make from my scores.

however, i can see the other side.  If you don't want to participate in the ranking system, i don't see the harm removing that person from the list all together.  It's like running the boston marathon.....there are some there to place in the race, while others are there for completely different reasons....we give them a finishing time, but not a rank.

I agree good scores can be gamed.  So i think most people who have been around awhile do not judge by score, but by experiences with other players.

[Bucky73]

Score's are a joke anyway.....Any newb can get their score down EASILY under 50 if they want to.

[Sketch]

Originally posted by pluck
I agree good scores can be gamed.  So i think most people who have been around awhile do not judge by score, but by experiences with other players.

You are right in so many ways Pluck!   The guys that have played the game for a long while and fly a 'decent' way are the ones who are respected in a sense by others.  But then you have the guys who have flown for a while and are just morons who like to pad away on thier score.  Certain squads are respected mor than others and some are just hated by all.  The guy that complains about getting HOed is the guy that loses the HO, "Says" he never HO's or is mad because he had 5 buddies with him fighting one guy and still gets shot down and blames it on the ho-er....  I have just learned to enjoy the game.  

[HomeBoy]

I like your idea Phil.  I think making your score public should be a choice the player makes.  

Also, I don't buy all this "my score doesn't matter" verbiage.  I'm sure there are a few who really don't care.  However, I think it's a somewhat trendy, macho thing to say stuff like "I don't care about my score."  I'd be willing to bet that if HTC were to sabotage your score so that it's but a fraction of reality and was posted for all to see,  the majority of these "I don't care" folks would scream bloody murder.

Actually I hate the fact that I care about my score.  Ok, I like tracking it so I have a way of quantifying my progress, blah, blah, blah.  But, the fact is, if I had a score that would be worth bragging about, I'm sure I'd feel differently.  I try very hard to not care about my score but I find myself being motivated by it far more than I wish.  Being able to make that a private matter really would be great I think.

Just MHO.

[Dichotomy]

"I'd be willing to bet that if HTC were to sabotage your score so that it's but a fraction of reality and was posted for all to see, the majority of these "I don't care" folks would scream bloody murder"

In my case you'd be dead wrong.  I'm not naturally good enough to rapidly progress up the ladder in skill and I don't really have the time to be on constantly practicing.  That said I play the game for run and believe it or not relaxation.  Learning slowly over time how to put up a better fight when a more advanced player spots me and THATS why I play.  So some day I can give them a run for their money in a 5 minute, adreneline pumping, white knuckled, fight.

[moot]

I used them as tools...  Personal tools. With my stats, I can see that I'm improving with time....    But what I see more and more is teamates doing selfish actions because of their scores on the board !!!

We agree.