Deflection 101

[TinmanX]

Originally posted by Sweet2th
It would have been more your speed if it was cherry pickin, yea sorry bout that

The degree of the Cherry Pick is only ever equal to either the amount of target fixation or the lack of Situational Awareness the other pilot has.

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by Sweet2th
It would have been more your speed if it was cherry pickin, yea sorry bout that

How would you know?  We've never fought.  I do however know something of your style (or lack thereof) through the films you post.

If I recal one was of you and someone else tring to cherry pick a 109 mission then claiming they ran from you (uh-huh, 9 against 2, I'm sure they were afraid) when in actuality they simply ignored you.  In another you spray and pray until someone with real skills comes along and finishes the guy off and now it's how to HO while flying figure 8's.

I will give you this; you use good music as a backdrop to your films.

[NOT]

The only true deflection shot i saw was about half way through. You got a guy comin right to left in the middle of your figure 8-o-towers. Everything else was HO attempts. The only deth i saw was you at the end. Otherwise was a well put together film. I those that have the patience to sit and put a film together, because i dont.

A quick note on the tactics though, if you try to bring that low flyin, goin around in circles trying to HO stuff to the MA, you will lose a lot of perks. Just my $.02.



NOT

[B@tfinkV]

dude map looks cool i got to get my hands on that.

batfink <---- still in shock from the poo-chopping video.



if only they knew.....

[culero]

That's lame, dood.

But the music is way kewl. Who is that, Butthole Surfers?

[Sweet2th]

Originally posted by culero
That's lame, dood.

But the music is way kewl. Who is that, Butthole Surfers?

You not knowin who that is , is what's really lame here.

[Sweet2th]

Originally posted by NOT
The only true deflection shot i saw was about half way through. You got a guy comin right to left in the middle of your figure 8-o-towers. Everything else was HO attempts. The only deth i saw was you at the end. Otherwise was a well put together film. I those that have the patience to sit and put a film together, because i dont.

A quick note on the tactics though, if you try to bring that low flyin, goin around in circles trying to HO stuff to the MA, you will lose a lot of perks. Just my $.02.



NOT

Thanks for your comments.

[Sweet2th]

Originally posted by B@tfinkV


batfink <---- still in shock from the poo-chopping video.



if only they knew.....

Are you one of the people who favorited that Batfink? cuz 3 people have.

[Niros]

I don't know what a deflection shoot is  (i'm serious) but i do know what a HO is. Those are 95% HO's and i hate them at the first merge.

[Vortex01]

OK so it may be more snap shooting then it is deflections shooting, but it would be a good map to practice on. As far as those who have little to say but are full of insult and put downs, I say post your films please so we can see what you come up with. To give criticism with the intent on improving things a good, to put down to make yourself feel better is not. Only you know what catigory you fall into, have a great day.

And I would like to get a copy of that map and try it out myself, please.

[Simaril]

Originally posted by Niros
I don't know what a deflection shoot is  (i'm serious) but i do know what a HO is. Those are 95% HO's and i hate them at the first merge.

Niros, deflection shooting is fiing "off angle". It requires leading your target; whereas, a HO or a shot from the dead 6 are not deflection shots.

Snap shot usually means moderate deflection with a brief firing window, as the target zips past.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Vortex01
OK so it may be more snap shooting then it is deflections shooting, but it would be a good map to practice on. As far as those who have little to say but are full of insult and put downs, I say post your films please so we can see what you come up with. To give criticism with the intent on improving things a good, to put down to make yourself feel better is not. Only you know what catigory you fall into, have a great day.

And I would like to get a copy of that map and try it out myself, please.

Those aren't even really snap shots, just plain HO's.


ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Vortex01
I say post your films please so we can see what you come up with.

Just do a search of the many P-38 films I've posted or visit the 479th film library.  They'll be a lot more beneficial than watching some guy's film on how to HO.


ack-ack

[WMDnow]

[] Badguy
       == == ==(  )        

U R Goodguy  Fire here


Badguy gets hit by bullets because you fired at the right time        
\|/
/|\  Badguy dies

[StuB]

Everyone complains about HO's but it takes two to set up a HO merge....so who's really at fault when it happens?

The HO pass is a dangerous but valid tactic.  

There is even mention of one by Randy Cunningham during his dogfight against Col. Toom, where he mentions that he was hoping to scare him but instead was freaked out when cannon rounds from the Mig 17 started passing over his canopy as they merged.  Wanna bet that Cunningham would have been firing too if he had been in a gun equipped Phantom?

I try to avoid merging HO by barrel rolling, but if the other pilot is obviously going for one I will not hesitate to shoot.  This is especially true if I'm in a 110......stay away from the pointy end or I'll shootin at you.

The video is nice.  No reason NOT to practice snapshots and HO's.....because they do happen.  Also, with the figure eight pattern there could be some good deflection shot opportunities in the center if you time it right.