Author Topic: Round 3 Begins  (Read 3006 times)

Offline tedrbr

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1813
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2007, 11:23:06 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Iron_Cross
I really am surprised the Yak-3, has hung on this long.  My guess would have the G-55 in its place at this point, .....

The G-55 out the first round, was a real shocker.  Three 20mm cannons, and 2 12.7mm MG's pack a nasty punch.  I thought that it would at least make it to round 3.  

Still  looks like the p-39 is the frontrunner.  Fighters will generally win these things.  Look for the Yak to be out this round.  The American voting block is a power untu itself, and the vast "fighter" majority will see it through.


I was surprised losing the He-111.  I thought Battle of Britain would have seen it to at least Round 3.

That the Yak 3 has outlasted the gun heavy G.55 also a surprise.  Yak-3 was one of the best dog-fighters of the war, but it's limited gun package a fuel range in the LW arena would hurt it's chances, I thought.  Not sure how well a Yak-3 will work against all the LaLas, Nikis, Ponies, and Spits found in LW.  It's more maneuverable but a tad slower than the Yak 9U, and the Yak 9U is not that common to see.  Might be people thinking this bird is more uber than it really is.  

P-39 is a front runner among the forum polls.  I'm betting (and hoping I'm wrong) that the B-25 is still in the running on online vote, due to easy name recognition.  

Quote
 Originally posted by Guppy35
That would be your opinion of course, not based on any fact. I'd suggest you do a bit of reading on the wartime careers of the 39 and 25. you might find out differently.


War time careers don't always translate into a GAME, especially LW Arena where planes that never matched up in the war, are seen flying together and against each other on a regular basis.
 
The B-25 is slower, has half the climb rate, and carried less ord than a B-26.  It's an EW medium bomber.  Mid-Late war models carried 75mm and many .50's in the nose, but in the War at that time, Allies dominated the airspace.  If a B-25 had to contend with LaLas, Nikis, Splixteens, Ponies, Osties on the ground, and many 109's and 190's, I doubt they would fair well --- just does not have the performance.  
 
The A-26 *might* but no guarantees there either, as it would come in as a perk ride, and therefore be hung with the "KILL ME" icon in the arenas.  But giving the buff drivers a second perk ride is enough of an argument, IMHO.

B-25 is an EW, MW, AvA, or SEA plane.  Certainly not a LW bomber.  As EW, MW, AvA and SEA have very small numbers compared to LW, and this is a popular vote, and most LW participants like the better performance machines, I would not expect the B-25 to make final cut, unless it does so on simple name recognition of the Doolittle Raid and movies ("I'm On Fire!  Save Me, Ben Affleck!").

This is very possible the B-25 will make final vote;  I'd expect, on performance numbers alone, that the Me 410 would have beaten the B-25.  It didn't.  There is also the case of the American bias at work in popular vote.  3 of last 4 are American made rides.

P-39 would fair well in low population EW, MW, AvA, and SEA.  It might do okay in LW arenas.... but again, I think expectations might be higher than what is reasonable.  P-39 only had to go up against German B&Z, a few medium bombers, and ground attack planes during the war.

P-39
A-26
B-25
Yak-3

I could live with any but the B-25.  It played a BIG part in the War, but would be such a small nich plane in the Game.

A-26 perk ride for buff drivers remains may favorite.  Hopefully the voters have becomes more acquainted with the remaining contestants over the weekend.

Offline mipoikel

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3521
      • http://www.llv32.org
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2007, 11:31:53 AM »
Democracy sux! :cry
I am a spy!

Offline ROC

  • Aces High CM Staff (Retired)
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7700
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2007, 11:38:54 AM »
Quote
Democracy sux!


Might not though, let's ask for a vote.
ROC
Nothing clever here.  Please, move along.

Offline BaDkaRmA158Th

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2542
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2007, 11:39:11 AM »
Thank you for your opinion.
Thank you for country bashing.

Thank you for voting.
~383Rd RTC/CH BW/AG~
BaDfaRmA

My signature says "Our commitment to diplomacy will never inhibit our willingness to kick a$s."

Offline Guppy35

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 20386
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2007, 11:43:07 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Shifty
Everything is Corkys fault! Always has been, always will be.:D


Damn right!  It's all part of my plan to take over the world!

:noid :noid :t :D
Dan/CorkyJr
8th FS "Headhunters

Offline tedrbr

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1813
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2007, 11:43:18 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by mipoikel
Democracy sux! :cry


Heck, we Americans all know that.... just look at what we end up running our country out of "Disneyland on the Potomac"?

Can't trust the Proles with something like the vote.  Just doesn't work well.

Offline Tilt

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7358
      • FullTilt
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2007, 11:46:49 AM »
I find it interesting to note the results of Googling

P-39
A-26
B-25
Yak 3

From HTC's perspective I am still surprised the Yak3 is not considered a variant of the other Yaks. It is no more different to the AH Yak9's than a Spit XVI is to the other spits...less so infact.

The Yak3 is a variant...........a one off.

The p39 could be limited to Q/N versions and have limited work load

but the potential diversity of the B25's & A26's makes each of them significant projects for HTC if they are released to fullfill many of the wishes espoused here
Ludere Vincere

Offline Widewing

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8801
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2007, 11:49:20 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by tedrbr

The A-26 *might* but no guarantees there either, as it would come in as a perk ride, and therefore be hung with the "KILL ME" icon in the arenas.  But giving the buff drivers a second perk ride is enough of an argument, IMHO.


I'm not convinced the A-26 would need to be perked. A P-47D-40 can carry 2,500 lb of bombs and 10 rockets. It's much faster than the A-26 and a viable dogfighter when used correctly. Likewise, the A-20G can carry 4,000 lb of bombs and has the ability to give fighters a genuine headache should the pilot know how to fly the A-20G.

I would prefer to see the A-26's impact on the arenas before I'd consider perking it.

Also, I would not rule out the B-25 being effective in the LWAs. I fly the Boston III in the LWAs with good success. Ditto with the SBD and TBM. Likewise, I'll not hesitate to maneuver fight when flying a B-26 either, should I need to.

There are few absolutes in this game, and nothing is certain when lead starts flying.

My regards,

Widewing
My regards,

Widewing

YGBSM. Retired Member of Aces High Trainer Corps, Past President of the DFC, retired from flying as Tredlite.

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2007, 11:51:42 AM »
Well, now that the Me410 is out I'll vote for the B-25.  At least it fills a gap, unlike the P-39, Yak-3 and A-26.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline jon

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 419
      • http://http://www.wildaces.us
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2007, 12:18:26 PM »
Gianlupo
I hope you dont vote for what i want anymore it seems to not be working out for either of the planes i picked:cry

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23931
      • Last.FM Profile
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2007, 12:22:45 PM »
As each plane I voted for was immediately kicked out of the competition, I should vote for the B-25 now... :noid
« Last Edit: April 02, 2007, 12:25:03 PM by Lusche »
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

In November 2025, Lusche will return for a 20th anniversary tour. Get your tickets now!

Offline Krusty

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 26745
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2007, 12:24:17 PM »
Lusche, I was thinking the exact same thing, only in regards to the A-26.

:noid

Offline croduh

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2509
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2007, 12:35:52 PM »
I don't think we have enough american planes, but they are so good so i chose them.

Offline OOZ662

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7019
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2007, 12:50:34 PM »
Poor Heinkel... :cry
A Rook who first flew 09/26/03 at the age of 13, has been a GL in 10+ Scenarios, and was two-time Points and First Annual 68KO Cup winner of the AH Extreme Air Racing League.

Offline MotorOil1

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 303
Round 3 Begins
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2007, 12:51:07 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
Well, now that the Me410 is out I'll vote for the B-25.


Every plane Karnak has voted for has been eliminated......  

Guess the 25 will be the next to fall.  My vote is still on the 39

:lol
MoterOil
-=Most Wanted=-
"These are detestable murderers and scumbags. They detest our freedoms, they detest our society, they detest our liberties." - General Hillier July 14, 2005, on Osama bin Laden and his ilk