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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2007, 05:18:17 PM »
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I just heard a commentator on the radio saying that within the last few days two american warplanes overflew a primary oil refinery in southern Iran.  I haven't heard of this in the news so it was odd to hear a local radio talk show guy (liberal democrat) reporting this as fact.  Anyone hear about this.

 
doubt it, Iran has a pretty elaborate SAM system.
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2007, 05:33:26 PM »
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doubt it, Iran has a pretty elaborate SAM system.
True, as long as you're attacking with an F4 Phantom or Mig-21.

I'm still curious whether or not their F-14s are functional or not.  The global assumption is that they must have run out of spare parts years ago, but necessity is the mother of invention, anything's possible.

Hells bells, was there an export version of the Phoenix missile?  I don't know if the casings would still be good after this long (if not, perhaps Iran could cast new ones, they certainly have the expertise with that size SRM, based on the Katyusha variants they're accused of supplying to folks in the region) but it certainly would be interesting to see them try and use them.
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2007, 05:59:32 PM »
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Every evidence that has been provided clearly showed that the British sailors and marines were not in Iranian waters.  The GPS coordinates clearly showed that.   So in my book, they were held hostage.


Really?

GPS coordinates monitored from where?

West has a looong record of violating souverign water and air space, including attacks against ground objects in neutral countries (Sukhaya Rechka airfield is a good example), so I'd better believe Iranian side.

Who was the guy who accused USSR of "illegally" shooting down two Iranian choppers over Kara-Kum channel?  :rofl

Look, they showed enough good will, not sending that UK sailors to prison for illegal border crossing, weapon smuggling and terrorist activities.

Hostages for what? Holding them to prevent an attack that is reported to be planned already on April 6th against Iranian nuclear objects? Sorry, but Yugoslavs holding US servicemen caught and arrested after a gun-fight with Yugoslavian police forces in Kosovo in 1999 didn't stop aggressors from bombing a souverign country, killing thousands of innocent civilians and blowing up hospitals, schools, bridges and foreign embassies.

Poor Brits were either mistaken or following criminal orders, but I wonder what could really happen if Iran attempted to arrest them in Iraqi water space that is supposed to be controlled by occupants.
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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2007, 06:01:26 PM »
Iran has a very elaborate SAM system, it is the super secret Russian Kavorkian radar system, my secret sources tell me at the time of the alleged flyover the Russian techs that were supposed to man the system were all partying and drunk and the Iranians could not figure out how to turn it on.

hence, World War Three did not start.

now back to global warming.
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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2007, 06:07:01 PM »
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Look, they showed enough good will, not sending that UK sailors to prison for illegal border crossing, weapon smuggling and terrorist activities.



They were smuggling weapons and they were terrorists? LOL! Where were they smuggling weapons too?? LOL!

What "terrorist" activities were the Brits enganged in?
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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2007, 06:08:13 PM »
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 killing thousands of innocent civilians and blowing up hospitals, schools, bridges and foreign embassies.
 


yes, the evil american imperial storm troops always blow up hospitals and schools, the cowards.  no food for oil. long live the USSR.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2007, 06:10:48 PM »
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Iran has a very elaborate SAM system,


Like that means anything. No SAM system has been able to deal with an American assault.
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2007, 06:15:21 PM »
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doubt it, Iran has a pretty elaborate SAM system.


Too bad the SAM system is worthless against American power.
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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2007, 06:17:55 PM »
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They were smuggling weapons and they were terrorists? LOL! Where were they smuggling weapons too?? LOL!

What "terrorist" activities were the Brits enganged in?


Illegally crossing the border while carrying weapons, it's obvious that when you commit two crimes like that - it's for terrorism.

I wonder what will happen to any Iranian group caught in Iraqi space in the same conditions. I don't think they'll be ever shown on TV with Iraqi "officials", more likely they'll be simply shot on sight.
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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2007, 06:22:12 PM »
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Illegally crossing the border while carrying weapons, it's obvious that when you commit two crimes like that - it's for terrorism.

I wonder what will happen to any Iranian group caught in Iraqi space in the same conditions. I don't think they'll be ever shown on TV with Iraqi "officials", more likely they'll be simply shot on sight.


So the Brits were trying to smuggle weapons into Iran and they also had a planned terrorist attack against Iran? Those BASTARDS!


I always knew that the Brits are terrorists!
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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2007, 06:23:20 PM »
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yes, the evil american imperial storm troops always blow up hospitals and schools, the cowards.  no food for oil. long live the USSR.:rolleyes:


I'll tell you more: you guys also bomb foreign embassies that belong to neutral countries that are permanent UN security counsil members.

no food for oil - what did you mean by that?

I think that US is the only country that bombed innocent civilians to support the organisation that was declared "terrorist" by their own Congress (KLA was in Autumn 1998).
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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2007, 06:24:45 PM »
See Rule #4
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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2007, 06:26:46 PM »
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Too bad the SAM system is worthless against American power.


Who cares? They'll simply stop exporting oil. I wonder how much a gallon of gas will cost where you live. I think - about $4 a litre. I can only hope that in Russia we'll have govt regulated prices, even now it's ridiculous when gas here is more expensive then in the US.
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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2007, 06:28:00 PM »
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Who cares? They'll simply stop exporting oil. I wonder how much a gallon of gas will cost where you live. I think - about $4 a litre. I can only hope that in Russia we'll have govt regulated prices, even now it's ridiculous when gas here is more expensive then in the US.


We have everything, including oil.
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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2007, 06:29:55 PM »
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See Rule #4


I am not a girl to be "loved" by someone.

If you don't understand what I post - then maybe I have problems with English, or maybe you have problems with logics.
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