Editorial... (or not)

[JimmyZ]

I shot down a typhie with a 109 tonight. Shoulda seen the sortie score. Not bringing anything to the discussion, just bragging really. Keep bringing me your uber planes. Please. My 109 needs the encouragement.
(You really are just as good as the rest of them Franz, really, would i lie to you? Just stop with the oil cooler crap and i'll find you a nice Lgay7 to smack around, all for your very own.)

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Kurt
No Oldman..

I'm not getting sucked into the "Our arena owns your arena" discussion... I'm just telling you, most people are in the L.W... Go ahead... Disagree, I dare you.


I think closer to the truth is that the late war flyers don't understand that this plane is fodder in the L.W. arenas...   They don't know what they voted on, and they are going to die in droves...

And that is why it will be a hanger queen in a month... (in the L.W. arenas)

I disagree!!


Now what happens?



And the plane isnt the fodder:aok

[Ball]

If the p-39 is added, i cant wait for all the prox kills when the noobs keep spinning it straight into the ground.



WEEEEEEEEEEE LOOK AT ME! IM IN P-39! CHECK OUT THIS GUN!

[eskimo2]

I stopped flying around  the end of 95.  In that tour 65 I had 25 P-40B kills.  

Here are my total kills from tour 66:
Ship Gunner - 19  
A6M2 - 18
F4U-1C - 14
P-40B  - 13
Bf 109E-4 - 10
Hurricane Mk I  - 10
C.202 - 10
Spitfire Mk I - 10  
Hurricane Mk IIC  - 4
Panzer IV H  - 1  
Ostwind  - 1


Sometimes its fun to try something challenging.

[moot]

Because adding another uberdweeb plane would mean more power to the dweebs.
Jumping into a furball knowing you could expend your entire ammo shooting down your targets and walk out without a scratch is boring.

[bj229r]

Does anyone think the P39 would handle better or be faster than the P40? And if so...Why?

[Gianlupo]

Originally posted by MWL
We shall see.  But I believe, and others can correct me if I am incorrect, the P39 had a pretty good run on the Eastern Front.

  MA is pretty much fought below 15k and is similar in many aspects to that theater - not the fight most US planes were designed and built for.  Only by exception do I find anyone above 30 (I hear the alt monkey screams now .

You're correct, MWL. There's one unknown variable, though: in RL the P 39 fought well against german planes. Who know what will happen when it'll have to fight american, british or japanese, even russian planes? We all know those are the majority of fighters used in LWs... I'm really curious to see what will happen if the 39 wins.

Ball... you're so cruel! (I hope to get a lot of proxies!)

Roo, nice quotation!

[Westy]

"Why did you steal our chance to add a good M.A. plane to the game?  And you'll say "I fly Early"    "....75 pilots? I already understand you 75... But 500 or so are in the Late war M.A. What about the rest of you?"


 You seem to be implying that the minority is getting their way.   Sorry bub but no matter how bitter you may be this is turning out the way the majority of the current customers want it.  (Which is why there are two bombers in the finals and a few really nice fighters have been dropped from running).

  That's the cold truth.

[Helm]

So the only criteria for if we get a plane or not is: ..."Will it revolutionise the LWA?

Sorry kurt ...but I could not disagree more

[Kurt]

Originally posted by humble
You really are clueless...

And you're a pretentious clod.  Do you see how my starting the post with a remark like that makes you not care about the rest of it?  Learn from that... Being a jerk is a sure fire way to make sure fewer people share your opinion.

Don't start off by making assumptions about what I know or why I think what I do.

[Kurt]

Originally posted by Westy

 You seem to be implying that the minority is getting their way.   Sorry bub but no matter how bitter you may be this is turning out the way the majority of the current customers want it.

I'm not bitter about the vote at all, I just find it exceedingly curious that arguably the weakest plane in the whole selection (well, ok, there was the Buffalo... so I guess thats not exactly true) has such a die-hard group of followers.

And I know the minority isn't winning - Thats logically impossible in this vote.  I just think its very curious that this particular bird is doing so well considering its less than stellar performance and the fact that many people don't even know what it is.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by bj229r
Does anyone think the P39 would handle better or be faster than the P40? And if so...Why?

The P-39Q was about 30 mph faster than the P-40E (385 vs 355) at best altitude. It also has a lower drag coefficient than any fighter, save the P-51. That means it will hold E very well. With 1,420 hp available in WEP at sea level, its power loading is lowest of all US fighters (5.5 lb/hp). That should equate to very good acceleration. Based upon its lift coefficient and wing loading, I calculate turning ability to be somewhere in between the FM-2 and F6F-5.

If we end up getting the P-39Q (probably with the P-39D too), I believe that it will more than hold its own the the late war arenas.

Either way, I'm the type who goes hunting La-7s and Mustangs with a TBM or Boston III. Flying the P-39 will be a luxury.

My regards,

Widewing

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by Kurt
Being a jerk is a sure fire way to make sure fewer people share your opinion.
 

 Anyone find this mildly ironic coming from him?

[Shifty]

Originally posted by Kurt
 I just think its very curious that this particular bird is doing so well considering its less than stellar performance and the fact that many people don't even know what it is.

Why do you think a lot of people have no idea what a p-39 is? I've known about the P-39 ever since my childhood when I was first bitten by the WWII aviaition bug.
Plus there are a lot of ex Warbirds guys flying here, the P-39 was used in that sim. I believe the P-39 is in the IL2 series as well. It might be assuming that a lot of people have no idea what a P-39 is, is an assupmtion in it'self.

[Soulyss]

Originally posted by Kurt
That wasn't a question.

Sticking a question mark on the end of a sentence doesn't automatically make it a question.

I'm not bagging on you, I just don't understand what you meant to ask.

I guess my point was that if the primary criteria is that the plane be a successful late war MA oriented plane - when do we get the other planes that would work great in other environments (AvA, scenarios, etc), fill planeset gaps, or contribute something to the EWA or MWA.   Not to mention people who enjoy flying the early war planes even in the LWA's.  

I don't expect it (P-39) to get as much usage as the spit of LA7, but I've voted for it because I think it will be a fun little plane, it will be a challenge, and my historical interest in the early years of the pacific war.

Hope that clears it up a bit.