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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2007, 04:48:13 PM »
The Pe-2/Tu-2 and Ki-43 also plugged holes, but they went out in the first round.
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Offline dhaus

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« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2007, 04:53:58 PM »
B-25!  I can be like Ben Afflict and win BOB on first mishun in my amurican spitfire, then, like, fly B-25 bomber on next mishun!  Oooh.  Actually, have voted for Yak 3, then the 39.   'course I don't know anything, AKnot killed me 2 or 3 times last nite in his PEE 40.  (Sigh)
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« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2007, 04:54:57 PM »
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The Pe-2/Tu-2 and Ki-43 also plugged holes, but they went out in the first round.


True but those planes didn't serve in every theater of the war. The B-25 and P-39 fill a larger hole.
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« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2007, 05:04:12 PM »
vote B-25!!
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« Reply #49 on: April 06, 2007, 05:12:48 PM »
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The Pe-2/Tu-2 and Ki-43 also plugged holes, but they went out in the first round.


No they didn't the Tu-2 was a very late war plane completely insignificant.

The Pe-2 (depending on the variant) would have been useful but without the rest of the plane set to go with it - then big deal (and I have argued for the Pe-2 over the years). The VVS used the B-25 as well and along with the A-20C / Boston it can fill whatever whole there was for a Pe-2 for now.

B-25 - Familiarization with its construction, mastery [by Soviet pilots], and employment, based on the combat experience of 14th Guards Bomber Air Division and 4th Guards Air Corps

The B-25 Mitchell in the USSR

The Ki-43 doesn't fill any whole - it's just a spoonful of dirt into the canyon that is Japanese aircraft.

The P-39 and B-25 were used everywhere by every major allied nation - not only the US - that's a truck load of 'filling' compared to any other plane or planes on the list.
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« Reply #50 on: April 06, 2007, 05:54:33 PM »
Small Ground clearance between prop and ground causes nasty nose-overs/ground-looping while high speed taxi-ing and landing and it can also occur on take-off if too much down elev is applied.

I VOTE
B-25 MITCHELL
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« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2007, 06:08:45 PM »
W00T VOTE B-25
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« Reply #52 on: April 06, 2007, 06:11:39 PM »
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Small Ground clearance between prop and ground causes nasty nose-overs/ground-looping while high speed taxi-ing and landing and it can also occur on take-off if too much down elev is applied.

I VOTE
B-25 MITCHELL


Nose-over with a tricycle gear P-39?  I live with a P-39 pilot; he said the P-39 was the easiest plane to taxi that he flew.  He has time in: PT-19s, BT-13s, AT-6s, P-39s, P-63s, RP-63s, a SBD, AT-11s, B-25s and B-17s.
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« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2007, 06:25:03 PM »
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The Pe-2/Tu-2 and Ki-43 also plugged holes, but they went out in the first round.


Silly.  Only American holes count!  What were you thinking?!
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« Reply #54 on: April 06, 2007, 06:25:04 PM »
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Is that an oversized spinner? Look how little room there is between the prop and the ground and its on grass no less, wonder how many props got bent while taxiing? :confused:

Very few. The nose gear went a long way to prevent that :D
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« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2007, 07:24:52 PM »
Thanks for pointing that out eskimo, I never considered the nose gear. I was primarily thinking toward the over controlling aggresive AH flyers. (like me)
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« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2007, 07:49:10 PM »
Im glad to see the Beavis and Butthead choice didnt make it to the final round.

There is hope yet...

Either of the two finals actually add something to the game, although I still would have preffered a Russian or Japanese made a/c.  

Disagree with you on the Ki-43 Bruno, my philosophy is "you have to start somewhere" when it comes to the earlier birds?, at some point we need to see the 1942-3 PTO a/c get filled out. Of course, I have no illusions on the ranting such an addition will always cause, cuz its not a 1945-hardly-flew-uber-bird with   6 cannons that some 10 year old player has a model of.
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« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2007, 08:48:10 PM »
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It's re-assuring to see them both in the final.
Agreed.

Neither were a bit-player nor a gimmick plane.  One of the best outcomes possible for the final round IMHO.
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« Reply #58 on: April 06, 2007, 08:58:03 PM »
So, how much time between declaring the winner and the plane being released to the game?  2 weeks?

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« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2007, 09:30:39 PM »
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The Ki-43 doesn't fill any whole - it's just a spoonful of dirt into the canyon that is Japanese aircraft.



The Ki-43 was the most widely-used Army fighter, and equipped 30 sentai (groups) and 12 chutais (squadrons). The first version, Mark I, entered service in 1941, the Mark II in December 1942, the II-Kai in June 1943, and the Mark IIIa in the summer of 1944.

The total production of the Ki-43 was 5,919 aircraft.

This is the plane that the Flying Tigers went up against. The Zero was the main ride of the IJN and the Ki-43 was the primary army fighter.

IMHO this plane was as big a hole as the P-39. I just want the AirCobra 'cause I'm a Yank and we can't get two planes :) (or can we?)
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