Author Topic: Chambering Semiauto First Shots (Read 2678 times)

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #135 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:05:59 PM »

I see the pee-pee measuring contest is till running at full tilt. How amusing.

Dago · « **Reply #136 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:37:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
I see the pee-pee measuring contest is till running at full tilt. How amusing.

I see old cliche stupid posts are still going too.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #137 on:** April 08, 2007, 02:39:51 PM »

Go back to playing with your tape measure.

And yes, the M1 Garand IS an important rifle in MAJOR matches, by the way. Drop by Oak Ridge Tennessee, and try a 1000 yard Garand match.

VOR · « **Reply #138 on:** April 08, 2007, 03:24:21 PM »

You guys really will argue about anything.

Dago · « **Reply #139 on:** April 08, 2007, 04:03:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Go back to playing with your tape measure.

And yes, the M1 Garand IS an important rifle in MAJOR matches, by the way. Drop by Oak Ridge Tennessee, and try a 1000 yard Garand match.

Sure, it's important in a Garand Match, duh, but open matchs you won't find many Garands, and M1As are getting rare too now.

Halo · « **Reply #140 on:** April 08, 2007, 09:05:54 PM »

Took the XD out to a Virginia farm today for first outdoor plinking and carrying on a short hike in mountain woods that have black bear, coyotes, and stray dogs.

My son-in-law, traditionally a revolver guy, a skilled outdoorsman who has hunted, hiked, and camped in the Rockies and Appalachians, loved the XD .45 ACP and said now he knows what he wants for Christmas. Said he was surprised how fast and accurate it was. We shot stationary skeet at seven to 20 yards using the usual 230-grain FMJ.

The XD was pleasant on the hike too, less than three pounds with two loaded magazines of 10 rounds each (could have carried 13 rounds each).

Nope, never saw any critters. But sure felt safer having the XD along in the woods.

After dark, tried the Glock laser/light. Impressive. Laser carried a good 30 yards as did the light, although the light was not very bright at that distance. Adds a welcome new dimension to night shooting/defense.

However, it definitely is a lot harder finding spent shell casings than with a revolver.

Dago · « **Reply #141 on:** April 08, 2007, 09:20:55 PM »

heheh, i only collect spend shell casings at a range as a courtesy to those who will be shooting next. In the woods, I just grind them into the dirt to decay. Some day they will return to the earth.

I have heard a lot of very positive comments on the XD.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #142 on:** April 08, 2007, 09:58:10 PM »

There is no reason to be arguing over these things. The problem set out by the thread was solved within 7 posts. Why are you arguing when you need to realize that nothing will change between the group of you?

lazs2 · « **Reply #143 on:** April 09, 2007, 08:46:30 AM »

Hell.. I have said over and over shoot what you want.. dago is the one who keeps going on about wheel guns being antiques and worthless..

I own both. I shoot both and know the limitations of both. dago won't even own a modern gun because it has polymer in it. He won't reload and he won't use a handgun outside of a very narrow range.

Use what you are comfortable with. Use what you are good with... If you think you are going to get into a situation where 30 rounds of handgun ammo will save the day and 5 or 10 or 12 won't... and.. you can't have a rifle... for sure don't risk your life on a wheelgun!

If you plink... shoot for fun and reload... you might find that a handgun that revolves is a lot more useful than one that doesn't.

If I was shooting at clays from 7 to 20 yards it wouldn't make a bit of difference what gun I was shooting... the kimber would work well... so would any of my 44 mags. I would probly have both in my bag for people to shoot.

dago.. I seen the brass slobs like you leave to "go back to nature" you and your ilk have probly closed more public land shooting spots than any other cause. drive up and see nothing but a carpet of the stuff.

And.. you most certainly did say that the .308 was more powerful or.. at least equal... I had to post the manufactures own ballistic charts to prove the .308 was a weaker round.

Shoot what you want. use what you are most comfortable with or.. get comfortable with several styles. But most important... get real familiar with any gun you use to defend yourself or others... know how to operate it and keep it in some form of readiness that makes sense and that won't have you fumbling around with the damn thing.

I admit my interests were honed by the likes of Kieth and Skeeter Skelton and Jordon and powerful revolvers and reloads and shooting at game and plinking at long range. The big, fast, heavy bullets would kick up dust you could see at 200 yards or more. The semi autos at the time didn't even have enough front sight to shoot that far. Have any of you ever shot a .45 acp at something 400 yards away?

Out in the field we became disenchanted with the self shuckers... they threw away expensive (yet fragile) brass and they had crappy sights and were weak calibers.

The guns have gotten a whole lot better along with the sights but the semi autos still have weak calibers (mostly, and in the context of this thread) and they still waste brass and are limited in bullet shape and power.

When I go plinking these days.. I take a semi auto and a revolver. most likely several of both. Some semi autos are not worth plinking with tho.. triggers and sights so bad that they are no fun. Others are a joy to shoot. Still have to pick up brass tho.

lazs

Habu · « **Reply #144 on:** April 09, 2007, 09:44:03 AM »

Note to people in this thread.

Pistols are very simple technology. You don't need years of experience and thousands of hours of use to understand them completely. If you are a technically inclined person you will know exactly how they work and they best ways to use and maintain them with relatively little instruction.

If a guy says " I have thousands of hours of experience" I say so what? It is not like flying a plane where you need hours to experience different situations that come up maybe once or twice every 1000 hours.

If you need to fire a bunch of rounds and will have time to get your gun ready a semi auto is the best weapon for the job. A lot can go wrong with a gun with a slide that is not well maintained.

If you need to fire one or two rounds and need to get your gun in the dark or in your pocket and have little time to get it ready a revolver is the best gun. Not much can go wrong when you need to fire one round from a revolver even if it was not well maintained. As long as the hammer strikes the casing it will probably fire.

lazs2 · « **Reply #145 on:** April 09, 2007, 03:25:48 PM »

That is a pretty fair statement habu.

If you think of a handgun as nothing more than a short range defensive weapon. They can be more than that tho and be a lot of fun.

If a person has a lot of hours with a particular gun he will probly know how to use it.. he won't have to think about it much.. that is an advantage. semi autos are more complex in their operation... Not in parts butr...there are more options between a completely empty gun and one that goes bang when the trigger is pressed. lots of things that can keep it from going bang that are just states of readiness.

That is great if you are aware of em and know em well and always keep the gun in one particular state of readiness.

If you use the thing for all kinds of reasons besides short range defense.. you probly want the versitility of a revolver or... better yet... several types of handguns.

lazs