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Offline Larry

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Sherman VC vs. T34/76, Tiger, Pnzr Info
« on: April 12, 2007, 01:33:51 AM »
Hope Skuzzy doesn't move this so everyone can get this info. Hope it helps you GV guys out and gives you an idea to where to hit the evemy. :aok

Edit: Here is WW2 Vehicle info URL



Serman VC Firefly

Weapon
76.2 mm2
Type of Ammunition
17 pdr (3") Mk IV, L/60
Weight
17lbs.
Velocity
2,980ft/sec
Thickness of armor penetrated
6"@30° at 100 yards
Armor Thickness (mm)
Front:                     2"@46°
Side:                      1.5"
Hull Front, Upper    50.8
Hull Sides, Upper    38.1
Hull Rear                 38.1
Hull Top                  19
Hull Bottom            12.7-25.4
Turret Front            3"
Turret Sides            2"
Turret Rear             50.8
Turret Top              25.4



T34/76

Weapon
76.2 mm F-34 L/42.5, L/41.51(1940 & 1942)
Type of Ammunition
BR-350A1 APHE
Weight
6.3 kg1
Velocity
2,150 ft/sec, 662 m/sec
Thickness of armor penetrated (range meters)
1M
90mm
500M
69mm
1000M
61mm
Armor Thickness (mm)
Hull Front, Upper     47
Hull Sides, Upper    40-45
Hull Rear                 45
Hull Top                  15-20
Hull Bottom             20
Turret Front            70
Turret Sides            52
Turret Rear             52
Turret Top              16



Tiger

Weapon
88 mm KwK 36 L/56
Weight
27.33 lb
Velocity
2,536ft/sec
Thickness of armor penetrated (range meters)
100
120
500
110
1000
99
1500
91
2000
84
2500
80
Armor Thickness (mm)
Hull Front, Upper      100
Hull Front, Lower      62@60°
Hull Sides, Upper      82
Hull Sides, Lower      62
Hull Rear                   80
Hull Top                    25
Hull Bottom               25
Turret Front              4"
Turret Sides             3.2"
Turret Rear              80
Turret Top               25
 


Panzer IV H

Weapon
75 mm KwK 40 L/48
Weight
18.22 lb
Velocity
2,428ft./sec
Thickness of armor penetrated (range meters)
100
99
500
91
1000
81
1500
72
2000
63
2500
?
Armor Thickness (mm)
Hull Front, Upper           80@10°
Hull Front, Lower           25
Hull Sides, Upper           30
Hull Sides, Lower           30
Hull Rear                        20@8°
Hull Top                         12@85°-90°
Hull Bottom                    10@90°
Turret Front                    2"      
Turret Sides                   1.2"  
Turret Rear                    30@15°
Turret Top                      10@74°
« Last Edit: April 12, 2007, 01:37:46 AM by Larry »
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2007, 08:14:28 PM »
Link says page error.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2007, 08:56:07 PM »
pretty much you get a kill hitting a Sherman or Panzer almost anywhere when using a Sherman.

Hell,  I hit a Sherman in the tracks (from the front) and killed it when hitting it from a Sherman.

I get very few richochets on Panzers from a Sherman.

I witnessed a Sherman killing a Tiger from 600 yards out with one shot.

T-34 angled armour on the front is no match for the Shermans gun out to 800 yards.

Sherman... great gun.  Terrible armour.

Love the sound of the shell bouncing off the floor after the gun is fired.   However, I have been hearing a LOT of double reports when firing the gun.   The boom plays twice.   Very confusing in TT.

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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2007, 09:19:10 PM »
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I witnessed a Sherman killing a Tiger from 600 yards out with one shot.


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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2007, 10:01:15 PM »
for the metric challanged, 6" of armor is 152mm

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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2007, 02:10:14 AM »
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Link says page error.


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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2007, 07:02:18 AM »
T3h Sherman VC was t3h bestest tank of WWII!    It absalootlee domanated evreething that stood in it's path!
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2007, 07:05:55 AM »
i had a tigr taken out 1 shot from 1600 by a sherman :(   tigrs are next to worthless  
HVAP shot for the T34s isn't what i thought it would be.  Several times i have had to shoot shermans 3-4 times in the front armor from 400-600

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2007, 07:22:08 AM »
Three richochets on a Sherman turret from my panzer at 600.

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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2007, 08:46:30 AM »
Thats the problem don't shoot thier turrets. One hit anywere else should kill them.
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2007, 09:59:44 AM »
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i had a tigr taken out 1 shot from 1600 by a sherman :(   tigrs are next to worthless  
 


Guess I should have burned those GV perkies...........


i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2007, 10:22:01 AM »
Well I havent even botherd to up a tiger yet. The ones I see that do manage to live what maybe 5 seconds long if that guess Ill have a lot of perks unspend from now on until something else gets added thats more "uber"

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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2007, 10:25:17 AM »
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Well I havent even botherd to up a tiger yet. The ones I see that do manage to live what maybe 5 seconds long if that guess Ill have a lot of perks unspend from now on until something else gets added thats more "uber"




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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2007, 10:26:00 AM »
Killed a few tigers with 1 shot. That gun on the Firefly is wicked bad. I think the days of the perked Tiger are numbered.

Took a T34 up with the HVAP loadout. It'll kill tanks now, which is something I never had much luck with in the past. Don't know if that's necessarily due to the new ammo, or the tweaking of ballistics and armor, but it works.
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2007, 01:13:22 PM »
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Took a T34 up with the HVAP loadout. It'll kill tanks now, which is something I never had much luck with in the past. Don't know if that's necessarily due to the new ammo, or the tweaking of ballistics and armor, but it works.


The old T34 AP was always able to kill Panzers and T34s if you hit the right spot at the right angle.  It was never able to kill Tigers except at point blank with 9 rounds.  The new HVAP can now kill Tigers at short range, including taking out the turret in one shot.  However, it cannot easily kill the new Super Sherman, even at point blank range.  So yes, I would say the Tiger will now be a hanger queen.  (Or would that be a garage queen?)