its not just an art complaint now. it actually is hurting my eyes

[Citabria]

you could argue that the terrain is all dark and therefore not causing eye problems but you have to look at the whole picture....

these pics are unmodified except they are desaturated to more clearly show how the dramatic contrasts are affecting players eyes.

here is the new version. note the dramatic difference in brightness and the extreme contrast between the sky and the ground. changing gamma makes the ground lighter but it makes the sky even brighter too. the relationship and therefore the problem lies in the new tiles and its interaction with everything around them. you have to consider the iris is expanding and contracting the entire time the player is playing on this terrain while transitioning between looking at the bright sky and the literally now blinding sun and the dark terrain.


heres the old terrain which did not have players reporting eyestrain or difficulty of any kind with the tiles. note how the terrain the sky and everything is very uniform in brightness and contrast...

[storch]

I was just saying to my squaddys that my eyes were hurting.  maybe it's just us old farts though.

[Citabria]

its not

back when I made Ozkansas,  Squirl, the terrain texture artist who made the pacific tiles I was modifying warned me very seriously about this.

if the tiles arent right its gonna hurt the eyes. the complete scene needs to be uniform that means ground and sky.

its all laid bare in the pic of the old terrain textures and sky and how everything blends together.

[DREDIOCK]

I think I have the solution!

Just always fly inverted

[Toad]

Originally posted by Citabria
back when I made Ozkansas,

That was the best map ever used in AH.

[storch]

Originally posted by Toad
That was the best map ever used in AH.

yup that map was well thought out.

[vorticon]

Originally posted by Citabria
you could argue that the terrain is all dark and therefore not causing eye problems but you have to look at the whole picture....

these pics are unmodified except they are desaturated to more clearly show how the dramatic contrasts are affecting players eyes.

here is the new version. note the dramatic difference in brightness and the extreme contrast between the sky and the ground. changing gamma makes the ground lighter but it makes the sky even brighter too. the relationship and therefore the problem lies in the new tiles and its interaction with everything around them. you have to consider the iris is expanding and contracting the entire time the player is playing on this terrain while transitioning between looking at the bright sky and the literally now blinding sun and the dark terrain.

heres the old terrain which did not have players reporting eyestrain or difficulty of any kind with the tiles. note how the terrain the sky and everything is very uniform in brightness and contrast...

seems to me then, that the quick fix would be to simply darken the sky colour. won't fix the darkness, but at least upping the contrast won't hurt anyones eyes.

[715]

Another partial solution is to up your graphics cards brightness level (which is really brightening the ultimate black level it will output).  This denys the cards ability to output really dark colors and makes the terrain easier to see and the contrast between terrain and sky less eye straining.  

This isn't quite the same thing as gamma: if you look at the curve, upping the brightness sets a minimum black level that can be generated.  Upping the gamma just non-linearly bumps dark stuff, but it can still go to zero (total black).  

I have mine set to do both: gamma of 1.9 and brightness (black level) of +50.  If you do this, make sure to reduce the contrast setting so that the curve doesn't saturate on the bright side.  (Of course one should do this only for the full screen 3D profile, not the normal Windows profile.)

[Sincraft]

Yea,
Sorry but - this is NOTHING like real life.  It is a flight sim so, not sure what the thought process here was.  
Has anyone flown that puts out the art in this game? Seriously not trying to be rude but , geeeeesh it's SO far off it's incredible.

After about 1.5 hours, my eyes are hurting when there is furballing going on.  
I can't furball like I used to - it eventually hurts too bad as I find myself squinting to find the ground.

I have a BIG monitor so that's not the issue either.

[thndregg]

Originally posted by JB88
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perhaps they don't love us anymore.

It's that stuff known as $$$$$$.

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

I like how a plane fly's under the horrison and is harder to track and see.
before it was to easy to jump someone with alt,and see there shape no matter the skin used,or the ground color. "or water"

Now just need to find a happy medium.

[FiLtH]

Ya my eyes hurt me now too. Love the game, but I dont plan on ruining my vision playing it.

[Roscoroo]

Time to get the HTC gang to come fly for several hours in a row and see what were going thru .

Yea its getting painfull to log any amount of time now.  

Its not our monitors guys .

[crockett]

Yep same here.. My eyes hurt after playing for any long periods of times now. The old version I could play hours at a time and never have any issues.

[Larry]

After about 30mins of playing my eyes start hurting and if I dont take a break my head starts hurting a bit around the temple area.