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Offline Eagler

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« on: April 19, 2007, 05:45:38 AM »
I consider this part of the Bush "legacy" as he appointed the judges which made this possible
Supreme Court OKs Abortion Procedure Ban

Though only a small percent of the over 1.3 million abortions a year our "ladies" commit in the US, it is one of the most gruesome ways we had come up with to murder our babies. Glad to see it banned .. again.
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2007, 05:48:28 AM »
Agreed.

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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2007, 09:33:36 AM »
bump for historical significance ...

to bad the repubs don't have an ad showing graphic photos of a partial birth abortion imposed behind all the dumbacrats who are now screaming about some lost woman rights because of this decision. It would be a powerful and enlightening ad.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2007, 09:43:07 AM »
correct me if I am wrong, but partial birth abortions happen at the time of birth.  IE. the head pops out and they kill it, right?

If so, I do not support that at all.  However I do support a woman's right to choose and I do think there is a huge difference between a bunch of cells and a full term fetus.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2007, 09:49:55 AM »
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correct me if I am wrong, but partial birth abortions happen at the time of birth.  IE. the head pops out and they kill it, right?

If so, I do not support that at all.  However I do support a woman's right to choose and I do think there is a huge difference between a bunch of cells and a full term fetus.



The Partial-Birth Aboriton procedure is used after 20 weeks (4.5 months) of pregnancy – often to six months, seven months or even later.

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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2007, 11:02:54 AM »
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correct me if I am wrong, but partial birth abortions happen at the time of birth.  IE. the head pops out and they kill it, right?

If so, I do not support that at all.  However I do support a woman's right to choose and I do think there is a huge difference between a bunch of cells and a full term fetus.
bodhi in a partial birth abortion the child must be breached because if the child's head exits the birth canal it is considerd to be born.  in this horrific proceedure the child is inverted while in the uterus so that his body is out but for his head.  a needle is inserted through the base of the skull and the child's brain is sucked out.  at that time a dead "fetus" is removed.

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2007, 11:05:34 AM »
Am I correct in the assumption that there is no provision for using this procedure when it would save the life of the mother?

If there is, could someone quote the decision where it states that it does?


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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2007, 11:17:42 AM »
I remember the politicians crowding on the floor of the house urging their  members to pass the assault weapons ban with this cry:

"Do it for the Children"

Ultimately the woman who is pregnant calls the shots.  I just wish the politicians would be honest about it.
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2007, 12:04:20 PM »
i am reluctant to insert myself into other people's lives, so  this topic is hard for me.

 i made a woman pregnant.  i didn't love her.  when faced with the decision of abortion, i knew instantly that i couldn't abide by that and we got married.  it lasted 2 years.  i don't believe not loving a spouse should make abortion ok, but that's me.  my daughter from that is so much a part of me.

it wasn't based on religeon or advice from anyone.  i think that was the first important decision i ever made in my life.  it was based totally on my feeling that it is wrong to kill that life because i screwed up, and i didn't allow it, and my ex went along.

i mind my own business, so i have trouble with laws that tell people what to do.  But I can't approve abortions.  Partialbirth abortions? It is inconceivable.
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2007, 12:22:09 PM »
I had a buddy of mine from High School go through a horrific experience with this.

He and his wife had been trying to have a child for a long time. Finally, they conceived one. She got along about 4 months, and went in for an ultrasound checkup.

Due to something( They never told me what, and I never asked) There was a problem in the womb. Seems that the Child was developing some of it's internal organs outside of the skin.Apperantly the major ones, such as the heart and lungs.

However, the fetus was still alive.

No doctor they saw said that if Birth was succesful(It would be a surgical Procedure even more invasive than a C-section), could they give even less than a 1% chance for survival. They decided to abort.

Now in this, It should be said, they kept trying, and did eventually have a normal, healthy child. But to this day, my buddy and the doctor agreed, to never let his wife see just how scary looking the ultrasound images were.

The doctor said it would have scared her out of trying to have another child. As it was, they had to go to counseling over the abortion part.

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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2007, 01:13:50 PM »
Gunthr you helped save a life.  A very special life.  Good on you bro!  You done good :)
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2007, 03:34:41 PM »
none of the dems on this board going to stand shoulder to shoulder with the likes of
Hillary
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Edwards
and denounce the SC ruling?????
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2007, 04:08:15 PM »
Silly law and silly ruling.

You have taken a procedure that is used almost never .. except when the life of the mother is in danger.. and ruled that it can be used almost never... except when the life of the mother is in danger.

brilliant.

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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2007, 04:15:46 PM »
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Silly law and silly ruling.

You have taken a procedure that is used almost never .. except when the life of the mother is in danger.. and ruled that it can be used almost never... except when the life of the mother is in danger.

brilliant.


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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2007, 04:33:01 PM »
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Silly law and silly ruling.

You have taken a procedure that is used almost never .. except when the life of the mother is in danger.. and ruled that it can be used almost never... except when the life of the mother is in danger.

brilliant.


I'm with MT on this one... in reality, a PBA would only be performed if it was discovered late term that the fetus is not viable (meaning it will die either prior to birth or immediately after despite medical intervention) or if the mothers life is in jeopardy.  

IMHO... this ban is not a good thing.