Gordon Brown, for all my fellow brits.

[Laurie]

God help our nation if no-one in the labour party objects to his take over-bid  and this sly crook becomes Prime Minister for Two and half damn years,


Vote conservative, this may and next general election

[Maverick]

Since you brought this up, care to elaborate why that guy is the worst thing to come down the political pike in the last 5 centuries. Other than a bad picture you didn't bring anything to a discussion.

[Laurie]

ppl in britain all know the facts it's always on the news e.t.c,
and the thing is, this guy is 1 month away from being british PM, with NO opposition within his party, which i think would be a failure of democracy if thsi man is given the keys to no.10 when he is Very un-popular in the british public it wont be good  in my opinion and find him very un-likeable.

[Hornet33]

Well as a British citizen don't you have any say in who becomes Prime Minister? Don't you get to vote?

[Laurie]

basically, it's halfway through a term of office,
and the prime minister, (tony Blair) is resigning in a month or so
and for soem stupid reason the public has no say in who takes over until the next election,(2 and a half yaers time). and no-one else is running other than this chap , gordon brown so were stuck with him, this man, in charge of our nuclear weapons, our country, and we dont even choose! the winner is who gets the most votes from within the party. it's a BIT like the 25th amendment, minus the illness and put in resignation, minus cabinet and joint chiefs and put in the whole of the political party (Labour)

[bj229r]

I can't speak for your side of the Atlantic, but over here, someone often SEEMS popular or loathed thanks to the partiality of the press--liberals always get a more favorable view, and to my knowledge, your press is even more left-ward tilted than ours

[Maverick]

OK all I've gotten from this is that the guy is reputed to be disliked. Nothing as to why or what he has or has not done. Don't you have ANYTHING to base why this guy is not qualified to be your PM?????


It does absolutely nothing to say it's in all the news over there, you posted it on a US bbs not an English one. Spit it out, what makes this guy such bad news?

[Dowding]

liberals always get a more favorable view, and to my knowledge, your press is even more left-ward tilted than ours

You do realise that Brown and Blair are Labour? Labour is left wing?

As Chancellor and Senator Blair's right hand cabbage... err... man:

1) Raided pension schemes to the tune of billions through increased tax - in 2007/08 alone his policies will take £7 billion - against advice at the time from the CBI, leaving a huge pensions balck hole (estimated at around £100 billion)

2) Introduced a myriad of stealth taxes

3) Introduced more 'green' taxes

4) is Scottish

5) err...

6)...The End

[bj229r]

I do understand that both are Labour, and your Labour, like our Democrats, typically want to buy everyTHING for everyBODY---alas, as Margaret Thatcher said, "Socialism is fine until you run out of other people's money"...hence the raided pension plans (admittedly, last part only a guess) If it makes you feel any better, the party on our side which purports to represent conservatism has been spending taxpayer money like drunken sailors for the last 6 years, and have now been voted out of office in favor of the proFESSIONAL big-government spenders

[storch]

it's part of the charm of being subjects you have no say in who lords over you.  probably one of the reasons they were disarmed in the first place.  it could be messy applying crushingly high taxes and placing leaders on an armed populace.

[Laurie]

He's the taxman! lol

he has done some very cruel things with taxes in the past

and my biggest objection is that there will be no vote he is just going to walk in.

by the way i am a 'thatcherite' a.k.a i am a republican/conservative

[Laurie]

Originally posted by Dowding
You do realise that Brown and Blair are Labour? Labour is left wing?

As Chancellor and Senator Blair's right hand cabbage... err... man:

1) Raided pension schemes to the tune of billions through increased tax - in 2007/08 alone his policies will take £7 billion - against advice at the time from the CBI, leaving a huge pensions balck hole (estimated at around £100 billion)

2) Introduced a myriad of stealth taxes

3) Introduced more 'green' taxes

4) is Scottish

5) err...

6)...The End

they're just eevil, lol

[FastFwd]

The opinion polls have been quite interesting. More people are thought likely to vote conservative if Gordon is PM than if the crown went to someone else. It's early days yet, but in 2009/10 I think Cameron can win by about 30 seats.

[FastFwd]

Originally posted by Maverick
Since you brought this up, care to elaborate why that guy is the worst thing to come down the political pike in the last 5 centuries. Other than a bad picture you didn't bring anything to a discussion.

Read the title again - especially the last five words. Oh and Britain doesn't have political "pikes".

[Whisky58]

I think the important point Laurie is making is that Gordon Brown is being imposed upon us without universal mandate.  That sticks in the craw of the people of a nation that likes to think of themselves as being the birthplace of parliamentary democracy.  "Realpolitik" is remote from the ideology, but party politics is becoming more & more focused on the individual rather than the policies and my impression that this is more so in the US than the UK, where millions of dollars are spent on promoting candidates.  General elections are becoming a race of personalities and no-one in the UK has voted for this personality (apart from within the Labour party)
If Blair had died suddenly, then it would be reasonable to have Brown take over (God forbid Prescott). However this transfer of power is being done cold and it smacks just a tadge of croneyism.
Brown may turn out to be a good PM.  I hope he does but I'm not betting on it.