Author Topic: Taking Down Bombers (Read 1773 times)

ghi · « **Reply #30 on:** April 25, 2007, 10:40:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Larry
110 with 50%, DT and 2x Mg151/20 and 2x Mk108 attack HO the first pass and anywhere except from 6 the nexy two passes. once your done killing buffs go find some fighters.

if are B26s or KI-67s, you won't catch them after 1st pass

Serenity · « **Reply #31 on:** April 25, 2007, 10:44:24 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Only, you get shot to watermelon at 800 yards because you're in a dead6 tail chase.

P.S. those WGr 21s have a range of between 1.2 and 1.4k, from all the tests I've done. You fire at 800 and I think they'll go past the bomber formation (unless you get lucky and they impact)

No. #1, im doing about 600 mph in the dive in behind, so I can pull out and scram after my rocekts are off, and #2, the WGr21s have a range of 1,000, but since the B-24s are in fact moving as well, anything greater than 900 will detonate BEHIND the last two drones, and anything less with impact the lead bomber. BTW, the German Revi sight is great for the WGr21s, as the 2nd mil. dot down is right where you need to put that lead bomber.

Larry · « **Reply #32 on:** April 25, 2007, 10:51:36 AM »

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Originally posted by ghi
if are B26s or KI-67s, you won't catch them after 1st pass

Thats why you always have alt on them, and the 110 can catch every bomber except Ar234s.

tatertot · « **Reply #33 on:** April 25, 2007, 11:30:20 AM »

i agree with zipcode guy its whos on the bike,some still need training wheels!!!!Some can ride a unicycle,depends on the buff your attacking also dont forget

btw zipcode guy has more time on his hands he on the injured reserve so hes honing his left eye sight this month <>

tatertot · « **Reply #34 on:** April 25, 2007, 11:36:02 AM »

oh ya i forgot its also were the buff put the shot to dont forget,saying that might give a secret to some of these attacks

anyone want to try some of the planes on attacks look us up in the ma we always looking for a challenge,to perfect both sides of the coin!

Jonny boy 8 · « **Reply #35 on:** April 25, 2007, 12:33:55 PM »

always attack head on, then attack the underside of the bomber. then the rear then the top. it always works, (pretty much 95% of the time most people attack at the rear first and never move any where else.) for big bombers(b17, b24, lanc) go for the wings its an easy and fast kill.

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hubsonfire · « **Reply #36 on:** April 25, 2007, 01:02:00 PM »

The rear is the last place on a bomber you want to attack, taylor.

Krusty · « **Reply #37 on:** April 25, 2007, 01:05:47 PM »

.... unless it's a Boston III or a C47

999000 · « **Reply #38 on:** April 25, 2007, 03:13:20 PM »

All you guys way ahead of me on the kills ...best way to knock a bomber out and survive is to drop like a rock! from the VERY HIGH 6 position! going over 500mph..roll over immeditaely as you pass under the bomber peal out from the six position away.
~~999000~~

VansCrew1 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 25, 2007, 03:14:48 PM »

999000 will rape a 262 with a ki67's tail gun,he's that good

he's not bad at bombing eather.

~~~VansCrew~~~

Krusty · « **Reply #40 on:** April 25, 2007, 03:15:02 PM »

I hereby vow to take WGr 21s whenever I might run into bombers, and to practice with them on EVERY enemy formation I see.

frosty · « **Reply #41 on:** April 25, 2007, 04:18:56 PM »

I'll start from high 6, but if I have rockets I generally wait and see if the buff pilot/gunner sees me. If I'm within 600 or so and they havent fired yet, I'll commit to trying to unload my rockets into the lead bomber first.

Reason? A rocket or three will knock off the wings like popsicle sticks. No tracer warning, and no real audible warning because it happens so quickly. Buys me a couple of seconds to pull out of range while the pilot is trying to figure out why his lead plane just turned into a brick.

Then I attack as normal, but only have the guns of 2 buffs to deal with.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #42 on:** April 25, 2007, 04:50:04 PM »

Any 109 with gondolas or Hog-C

Plan A - Altitude Advantage:
Straight down, aim for the cockpit. Start a bit ahead of him so that when you are in range he has to shoot straight up. That’s a tough shot from a buff. The poor gunner usually has a tough time quickly tracking you from 12:00 very high angle to 6:00 very high angle; he’ll have to simultaneously rotate his guns.

Plan B – Co-Alt:
Set yourself up on a collision path pointing your plane where he is going. This should put him at maybe 10:30 - 11:00 or 1:00 – 1:30. Make minor adjustments so that your path intercept point will be slightly behind him. Keep your wings level and avoid the temptation to turn into him. Let him fly nose to tail through your firestream. This also presents a tough shot for the gunner; it offers a very fast closing speed and a difficult sweeping track. It’s rare to even receive a ping. I’ve completely blown a few of these attacks though; it’s tough to set up and time well.
I’ve never read about this unconventional attack or seen anyone else use it, but it does work well.

Krusty · « **Reply #43 on:** April 25, 2007, 04:56:48 PM »

I use that quite often.

The only problem is because the closure rate is so fast and the angle, and the "from nose to tail" bit, you never EVER do catastrophic damage in 1 pass.

I don't like that type of attack because it puts me in a bad position afterwards, wastes ammo, increases the chance of a ram, and doesn't remove a bomber from the formation (so no reward for your efforts), and afterwards -- well you're in a bad position now.

Instead of doing that I'd rather take the time and effort to set up an attack that has a better % to kill one of the drones, that way if I'm in a bad position afterwards, there's only 2 left.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #44 on:** April 25, 2007, 05:11:20 PM »

When done correctly this is a 1 second burst attack and the buff explodes instantly. Most of the time, that’s what happens.