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Offline DREDIOCK

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« on: April 30, 2007, 08:21:06 AM »
Im sure by now all have heard about the bridge.

While looking at it on the news and the havok with traffic it is and is going to be playing for the foreseeable future.
I had a thought.

Why not use the military to get something up in the meantime until it can be rebuilt?

Sems to me that if we were on the attack and needed that road net in working order and it had been destroyed. The military would have something up in less then a week.

So why not use them?
Seems to me it would provide a valuable training experience
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2007, 08:25:29 AM »
A couple things I can think of...

1. If the military put something up, it would be a short-term structure, but
2. A permanent replacement is still needed, and the military structure would be in the way.

There would never be a good time to replace the temporary device with the permanent replacement, but the temp structure wouldn't be built to take the type of constant load, so it would have a short lifetime.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2007, 08:44:14 AM »
OMG, all those people will have to ride mass transit, the horrors.:O
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2007, 08:45:45 AM »
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OMG, all those people will have to ride mass transit, the horrors.:O


lol, ever been to N.Y. city?
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2007, 09:04:35 AM »
Im thinking they could use the military knowow to erect something off to the side as a detour while the old section is being replaced
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2007, 09:19:18 AM »
Remember the difference between mechanical engineering and civil engineering:

Mechanical engineers build weapons, civil engineers build targets.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2007, 09:29:35 AM »
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OMG, all those people will have to ride mass transit, the horrors.:O
Half the population of S.F. *should* already be required to ride the short bus.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2007, 09:30:34 AM »
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Remember the difference between mechanical engineering and civil engineering:

Mechanical engineers build weapons, civil engineers build targets.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl  I'd never heard that before. Excellent!
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2007, 10:24:31 AM »
It won't mater how fast the fix job could be done.

Cal trans is going to be the ones to fix it, so therefore it will take about 5Xs longer then even the worst contractor could do it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2007, 11:05:24 AM »
It'd be a great idea if we weren't in a war right now, but I figure seeing as how they have so much to deal with overseas, let them spend their time in the states chasing women around and having a good time.  Let some other contractor take care of this mess.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2007, 11:35:36 AM »
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Half the population of S.F. *should* already be required to ride the short bus.


The overpass in question is not in San Francisco.
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2007, 11:43:35 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/30/highway.collapse.ap/index.html

"The cost of the repairs would likely run into the tens of millions of dollars, and the state was seeking federal disaster aid, Kempton said."

I had no idea that a traffic accident qualified for federal disaster aid.
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2007, 11:47:46 AM »
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I had no idea that a traffic accident qualified for federal disaster aid.


The highways involved are both part of the National Highway System.
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2007, 12:04:30 PM »
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The overpass in question is not in San Francisco.
Oh, so San Franciscans do not use it?
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2007, 01:47:48 PM »
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[I had no idea that a traffic accident qualified for federal disaster aid.


everything qualifies for disaster aid, because uncle sam has lots an lots of money.
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