Originally posted by ramzey
so you made thats up, cuz numbers are scary to look at? its called manipulation of evidence (some can call that lie)
also, quote you put above its about what could happen if future immigration if llaw change. Thats don't include different approach to those new who like to work for better future and those who are just too lazy to move their bellybutton and work. Its base on prediction new emigration don't like to improve their social situation as those who receive those gov benefits now.
lol, cost of illegal activity, what kind of illegal activity?
look at thos form other side, all those teachers, nurses, policeman, border patrols guys, doctors, land lords,farmers, construction contractors..... earn their income cuz of those illegal activities.
Otherwise most of them have to be on welfer or food stamps.
witch could be more costly then those illegal activities
I hope you are not blind to recognize this one was made up based on the same report you quoted as first, but in place of low income families, someone put illegal alliens.
another manipulation to put more gasoline to the fire
If they are illegal, thy don't pay taxes at all , cuz they are illegal, so how come they can pay taxes????? and receive benefits? [/B]
didnt realise the "Center for Immigration Studies" and "the Heritage Foundation" were the same thing.
Irreguardless. it is safe to assume that the vast majority of illegals are not very educated. Thus they would certainly fall into the "uneducated" catagory
increasingly crime is becomming a major factor in illegals
Just because they are illegal doent mean they dont pay taxes.
In fact one of the ways they get in is through phoney documents SS cards
and Drivers licences and the like. So many of them do pay taxes BUT they also manage to finagle themselves into the welfare systems and take advantage of our Health care system.
While they are paying into the system. what they put in does not cover what they take out
And even if you take our own LEGAL poor into account.
We have enough problems taking care of our own poor without having to worry about taking care of people who DO NOT LEGALLY BELONG HERE as well.
they only further burdon the sytem
I dont buy this load of crap that these (insert vocation here) need the illegals. Thats a load of crap.
They need illegals to operate businessess dishonestly and illegally.
what they do is n the case of landscapers for example. Deal in a cash basis.
They pay the illegals a low wage and only report about half of what they make. often less.
Dont kid yourself into thinking they are charging the customer less because of illegals.
thats a crock too.
I see this garbage damn near every day
Get rid of the illegal workforce and nothing will change but the amount of profit the contractor is able to pocket because he wont be able to charge any more then what people doing business legally are charging
Im a contractor myself and I keep my hand on the pulse of what people are charging so I can adjust my prices accordingly.
Dont think for a minute that most of these guy with illegals are charging much if anything less then those of us doing business legally are. They arent. On average its about the same.
Yea some may be alot cheaper. But those are usually the inexperienced and unlicensed (and thus also uninsured) So they are illegal businessess all the way around
I do not hire illegals or anyone I even suspect of being illegal. (I will hoever politely take your name,address and phone number and turn you in)
There are people willing to do the work for what I want to pay. Which can often be less then $10 per hour or as high as $16 depending on what Im having them do and what their capabilities are
In the summer Teenagers and college students work out just fine. The ones that dont I get rid of and replace with another.
I dont have to worry or feel bad about laying them off at the end of the season or if things get slow.