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Offline FrodeMk3

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« on: May 01, 2007, 11:54:38 AM »
Has anyone else seen this today?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070501/wl_nm/venezuela_nationalization_dc

Wonder what kind of impact it's gonna have on the market. Oil's way up there already. Plus, I wonder if it will have any impact on our operations in the Gulf region. I'm thinking that it will be a factor in deciding whether we stay or go in Iraq, Since secured oil reserves are hard to come by.

Offline john9001

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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2007, 12:32:14 PM »
that means Venezuela will get no more foreign investment.

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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2007, 12:36:15 PM »
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that means Venezuela will get no more foreign investment.



And more illegals swarming our border.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2007, 12:38:12 PM »
Time for the Ameribarbarians to invade another oil rich country I suppose.  Try not to mess this one up.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2007, 12:50:33 PM »
The Chinese oil industry will step in.

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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2007, 12:52:44 PM »
Yeah, it worked out so well for us Ameribarbarians last time.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2007, 12:53:14 PM »
I say we should send him a present in the form of:


Offline Mickey1992

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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2007, 12:58:27 PM »
Didn't the Saudis kick out all of the oil companies in the '70s?

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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2007, 01:09:39 PM »
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
Didn't the Saudis kick out all of the oil companies in the '70s?


There was an oil embargo and we had lines at gas pumps that lasted for hours just to get 10 gallons of gas!

There is no shortage. I worked in refineries for 10 years and its all a ploy to get more money from consumers because they know we will spend it.

If you would like more info just google 70's oil crisis.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2007, 01:16:21 PM by Sting138 »

Offline soda72

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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2007, 01:16:17 PM »
Well they better hope that the oil never runs out or a replacement isn't found...

Otherwise they'll want/need "open investment" once again.

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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2007, 01:18:33 PM »
Time for the Ameribarbarians to invade another oil rich country I suppose.
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2007, 01:22:17 PM »
And the Leadership in the United States, Europe, China, and Japan continue to depend on depleting oil reserves from less than stable parts of the planet for the majority of their energy needs with only token lip service and meager funds given to developing alternatives.

The 70's didn't teach us anything.
The early 90's didn't teach us anything.
Today doesn't teach us anything.

More blood and treasure for oil!

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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2007, 01:44:50 PM »
I really think we better kick alternative energy research into high gear.   Besides all the economic and political problems that foreign dependency on oil brings, I think oil is just too useful as a raw material to be burning it as a fuel.

Sting, please look at you recommendation to nuke Venezuela as a response to them nationalizing a valuable natural resource and then reread your quote about common sense and liberals.

tedrbr - your comments seem to me to always ring true.

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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2007, 01:57:38 PM »
Not to worry,
 They will still sell there oil to the French, everything will be fine, the sun will come up in the morning, and everyone will hate America because WE made the French buy there oil.

The're all morons.
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2007, 02:34:58 PM »
You know, a funny thing...

I think we don't realize the total reliance the world has on oil/Petrochemicals.

Most people think right off the bat, that it's use is for fuel in one form or another. What most don't consider, is how much we use in lubricants, cleaning solvents, Asphalt, roofing materials, and a big one now, Plastics and synthetic rubber. We could actually cut down on Petrochemical use if we went back to buying products that were finished in wood and steel, instead of plastic. Take for example modern firearms. Alot of Semi-auto's out on the market now have Poly(read, plastic) Frames. Alot of rifles have plastic stocks and furniture. Hell, they're making ammo with plastic cases.

But where you are seeing the biggest usage is in either Automobiles, or the home. In the Home, you see quite a bit of plastic furniture such as childrens' beds, outdoor chairs, TV cabinets, etc. In automobiles, you see quite a bit of body parts and interior pieces made of plastic...Which was just a little bit of a typical '60's or '70's american car.

Now, where this has relevance to the topic at hand, is that Heavy Crude, Such as what Venezuela produces, is where a large part of other-than-fuel usage is made from. It's more diffacult to refine Hvy. Crude into fuel, so alot more of it finds it's way into other usage than would say, Light sweet crude(Such as what comes from Saudi Arabia.)

Since this just barely happened, It will be kind of interesting to watch developements over the next few days.