A mental excercise

[Puck]

Originally posted by WMLute
The REAL question is if you'd HO or not.
 

One of the favorite tactics in the Pacific theater.

If you could teach AH pilots with perfect (or better) eyesight and top physical condition to play the piccolo you'd probably have some decent combat pilots.

[Krusty]

You all seem to think we'd be taken as-is from our computer desks and dumped directly into planes.

Wouldn't be like that.

IF we were WW2 pilots (if we knew how to raise the landing gear, where the flaps were, how the mix should be set, etc) and we had our CURRENT skill set, we would be way better off than the average pilots of the time.

I'm not counting the basic stuff that ANY pilot must learn before soloing, I mean the combat manuvering, aiming, getting on a target, breaking off, avoiding an incoming enemy, and getting kills.

We would be much better fighters. It's the basic skills that we've learned, looking around, checking 6 nonstop, gauging E-states, getting angles, knowing how much to lead, all this stuff that the WW2 pilots all had to learn on the job, and most of 'em died learning.

[Viper35]

What if you get air sick easily?  

[Krusty]

Then nobody wants to fly with you

[Viper35]

Oh shut up and go work on a skin or something!

[68ROX]

We have one huge difference between us and real pilots back in the day....

When we get killed, the screen goes red....and we end up (alive) in the tower with a bruised ego 10 seconds later.

The REAL guys went home in a box.

My <> to those brave men....on ALL sides.

68ROX

[Kurt]

I think a couple of you missed the point..

As Krusty pointed out, the basic training to operate the actual machine is assumed... I said in the original post to leave that stuff out, I was asking strictly from a tactical point of view.

I mean, I'm sure that 70% of the players (or more) simply lack the physical strength to pull a hellcat through an 8G turn.  Thats a given.

The fear and terror aspects were interesting though.

The amount of times we have been killed is not relevent 68Rox, the point is that we have thousands of hours of training that the real pilots didn't get.   We have had the ability to experiment with manuvers they may not have thought of, and we have had the chance to learn precisely why somethings work and others don't work.  They learned that by getting killed permanently.

Still its been a fun discussion so far.

[JimmyZ]

You'd get your collective oscares handed to you. As rookies they'd never let you up in anything more than a 30 eny plane.

[Murdr]

I agree with krusty.

I also spent quite a bit of time with racing sims.  One time when some bonehead ran a stop sign crossing an intercetion in front of me, I ended up spinning backwards and sideways 80 mph down a 2 lane road with telepone poles and embankments on each side.  The whole time I was pretty much on "auto pilot" making the car do what I needed...This after having spun 100s of times in simulation.  Im sure I would have had no clue what to do, and had serious accident without the sim experience.  Guess that puts me in the believer colum.


Oops, I forgot.  Today is bag on Krusty day isn't it?  My mistake

[bagrat]

actually ww2 pilots had a very good understanding of airplane physics so alot of the maneuvers that we pull off over blindly playing for years was picked up by them in alot of hard book studying an hours of stressful flight.

so i believe that (not all) but some of the more experienced pilots prolly knew wut we know. not to mention we use alot of flaps in combat which i dont think was an option most of the time for real pilots

[Panzzer]

The fighter pilots must have had really good SA, good vision (the word for good eye-sight?) and good shooting skills. While I might require glasses in RL and not have any skills in 3d-visioning, I might still fare well in a simulation such as AH.

The skills required in AH aren't nearly as demanding as they have been in RL. Gunnery and situational awareness have been the skills to be had.

[JB88]

is the gunnery in real life going to be exactly the same as the gunnery in the game?

what about high wind conditions?

or consider the fact that the enemy never had red identifier and a distance marker attached.

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i would be curious to know first if there have been any players who played this game for a while first and then went on to learn how to fly.  i'd like to know how much the game helped.

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interesting question,

[DiabloTX]

Good question 88.  In the gun camera footage I've seen it looks like the bullets just go everywhere.  Only canons seem to go in a relatively straight line.

One of the things that is different as well compared to the game is the emotional cost of going up on a mission for a great length of time.  

Good thread Kurt!

[Kurt]

Originally posted by DiabloTX


Good thread Kurt!

Thanks Diablo, Its grown up to be just what I wanted.

[Kurt]

Originally posted by JB88

i would be curious to know first if there have been any players who played this game for a while first and then went on to learn how to fly.  i'd like to know how much the game helped.

Before learning to fly I did lots of time in MS flight sim (early versions).  My flight instructor felt it helped me a lot, especially with understanding the panel, radio navigation and the basics of flight.

That was in the days before everyone really knew what MSFS was, around version 4.  He asked me to bring it over to his house so he could check it out, and became a sim pilot soon after.  He had about 9500 hours, about 5000 of that in turbine, primarily a Beech KingAir.  He was no schlub.