Frustrated

[BaldEagl]

So far this camp I've gotten to fly with my squad twice.  Twice in 13 days.

My squad is  usually in the orange arena.  Every night when I log on Orange is overfilled (usually by almost 100 people) so I end up flying alone in Blue.  Could I ask everyone to come to Blue?  Sure, but if they like flying in Orange great, so I usually just give them a and go about playing in blue.  Sometimes they'll come over.  Sometimes I just don't even bother with the so they won't feel obligated.

Tonight I logged on and actualy was able to get into Orange.  No squad (I logged on pretty late).  Orange was being devistated by Knights and Rooks so I went to blue seeking a little more balance.  Blue was being devestated by our country (Bish) and ENY was over 20 so, I thought I'd go back to orange to help out.  Overfilled.  Couldn't get in.  So I ended up playing in MW.  Not many people, the ones that were there were mostly land grabbing and none of the planes I wanted to fly tonight were available to me (in either EW, MW or blue due to ENY).

So, being one who doesn't like changing countries, I was faced with the choices of milkrunning alone in EW, landgrabbing with a few others in MW or joining the hoard and flying planes I didn't really want to fly in my hour available in blue.

I understand the need to force people to balance the arenas.  I do however think there should be an accommodation to allow squads to fly together in whatever arena the most members are in and I think that forcing people to fly in the arena that they are hoarding in rather than the one that they are being gang raped in is just wrong.  What kind of balance is that?

Had I been able to see the map names, player balances and territory balances before log-in, knowing none of my squaddies were up, I would have gone to and remained in orange.  As it is, the only way I can make a decision as to which arena I want to fly in is to go into each one and look, in which time the one I end up wanting to fly in might be filled as was the case tonight.

I don't know what the answers are given the current state of affairs but I suspect if nothings done this will get worse over the summer as squeaker season opens.

Forgive this post as I know this has been beat to death but I'm just frustrated, not by how I've been doing in the game, but by the limitations being placed on me to even try to play the game.

[hubsonfire]

"These attempts at balancing are nice and all, but I'd like them more if they didn't affect me whatsoever."

Yeah, you and all the other people who seek to create and perpetuate the lopsided numbers.

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
"These attempts at balancing are nice and all, but I'd like them more if they didn't affect me whatsoever."

Yeah, you and all the other people who seek to create and perpetuate the lopsided numbers.

I think you might have misread the part where once having looked through the arenas I wanted to go to orange tonight where Bish had 80 some players to 110+ for each of the Rooks and Knights and both were ganging Bish but I couldn't get back in.  I wanted to help offset the lopsided numbers, not add to them as would have been the case had I flown in Blue, therefore I ended up in MW where at least the numbers were even.

Now how exactly does that make me one who seeks to create and perpetuate the lopsided numbers?

And BTW pr***, I never said "These attempts at balancing are nice and all, but I'd like them more if they didn't affect me whatsoever."  What I did try to say is that there must be a better way.

[EDIT]  And I'll go so far as to attempt to make a constructive suggestion (in addition to the one above about being able to see what the arena balances are before logging in) rather than your close minded "This is the way it is so it must be the best" post.

Make the LWA's invisible to the player base.  When logging in your choices are EW, MW and LW.  If you hit LW you are put in the arena by first, where your country is most outnumbered (i.e. sides are most imbalanced) and second by overall arena numbers (i.e. put in the arena with the lowest numbers).  Then it doesn't matter how many arenas there are, you are simply assigned to one.  This would also largely eliminate ENY but it would cause issues with squads so the assignment to an arena where squaddies are already up may also need to be implemented.  This would also help arena balances for the non prime-time players although overall arena numbers might be low (that said opening and closing arenas to adjust for prime time may also be an option not currently available).

[Roidrage]

At one point Rooks had 60 more and Nits 45 more than Bish.

[Harp00n]

Press "Quit" then "Online Game"...after several tries the player limit will be upped. Never had a problem to join an overcrowded server after doing this for more than a minute.

[yb11]

BaldEagl i too have had this prb trying to get in to the arena my squad is in.im going to quit the game for the summer. no need paying for a game i dont get to play maby il come back maby not who nos    yb40(aka) yb1

[uptown]

Everyday I get off work and log on to the game and can't get in the arena my squadies are in. Everyday!

[Xargos]

.sr will let you know where the rest of your squad is when your in the lobby, if you didn't know.  

Nine out of ten times when I log in I can't get into the same arena as my squad.  So I end up having to log in and out of another arena until I can get into the one I want.  If I can't fly with my squad, I don't normally fly.  Many times I only end up in the lobby to see if any of them are on, and if they are not, eighty percent of the time I exit the game all together.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Harp00n
Press "Quit" then "Online Game"...after several tries the player limit will be upped. Never had a problem to join an overcrowded server after doing this for more than a minute.

This only works at certain times, when the population is stable or increasing.
If you disco at very late US hours, chances are the arenas are continually downsizing preventing joining the more "popular" one.

[Platano]

Originally posted by BaldEagl
So being One that doesnt like to change countries,

Theres your problem Bud...

[Anyone]

this is why in the current setup things just aint workin 100%

we have 2 arenas that are unbalanced

we have a cap limitor that forces people into other arenas even if it makes them even MORE unbalanced

we have squads not able to fly with each other.

we have small maps with 400 players on....





i for one am glad that i only fly Euro time now, no issues with too many players, no issues with arena caps, and virtually no issues with balance (untill 7pm anyway)







How hard would it be to make an arena balance setting that would allow seperate countries to join servers so the balance is still there?

ie
LWO A-120 : B-60 : C-100 should still allow countries from B to join, even if the 280 cap was reached.....

honest question

[Nilsen]

Never takes more than a few mins to find a slot. Just quit and retry every few seconds and i bet that it takes MAX 3-5 mins to enter an arena. Only time this may be an issue is if the limit changed a few minutes prior to your attempt.

I can see that if you give up after one attempt after entering the game that this is a problem.

[Laurie]

Originally posted by BaldEagl
I think you might have misread the part where once having looked through the arenas I wanted to go to orange tonight where Bish had 80 some players to 110+ for each of the Rooks and Knights and both were ganging Bish but I couldn't get back in.  I wanted to help offset the lopsided numbers, not add to them as would have been the case had I flown in Blue, therefore I ended up in MW where at least the numbers were even.

Now how exactly does that make me one who seeks to create and perpetuate the lopsided numbers?

And BTW pr***, I never said "These attempts at balancing are nice and all, but I'd like them more if they didn't affect me whatsoever."  What I did try to say is that there must be a better way.

[EDIT]  And I'll go so far as to attempt to make a constructive suggestion (in addition to the one above about being able to see what the arena balances are before logging in) rather than your close minded "This is the way it is so it must be the best" post.

Make the LWA's invisible to the player base.  When logging in your choices are EW, MW and LW.  If you hit LW you are put in the arena by first, where your country is most outnumbered (i.e. sides are most imbalanced) and second by overall arena numbers (i.e. put in the arena with the lowest numbers).  Then it doesn't matter how many arenas there are, you are simply assigned to one.  This would also largely eliminate ENY but it would cause issues with squads so the assignment to an arena where squaddies are already up may also need to be implemented.  This would also help arena balances for the non prime-time players although overall arena numbers might be low (that said opening and closing arenas to adjust for prime time may also be an option not currently available).

here,here

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Nilsen
Never takes more than a few mins to find a slot. Just quit and retry every few seconds and i bet that it takes MAX 3-5 mins to enter an arena. Only time this may be an issue is if the limit changed a few minutes prior to your attempt.

I can see that if you give up after one attempt after entering the game that this is a problem.

Depends  on the time you are usually flying at. See my post above.

When that happens to me and the other Arenas do suck, usually the TA has to endure my presence for a while

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Lusche
Depends  on the time you are usually flying at. See my post above.

I dont fly at those hours so you could very well have a point there.