help me obie wan community, youre my only hope.

[JB88]

Originally posted by megadud
you suck anyway 88  no matter which side or what plane you fly.

btw what is your handle ingame?

megapwn.

duh.

[CAV]

help me obie wan community, youre my only hope.

I guess in order to play the game you need to have no loyalty to your squad, no loyalty to your country, but remain 100% loyal to Hitech.

In a Flight Sim long, long ago.....

" I am a Bz  and I will always be a B lander!"

Thinking back to my Air Warrior days... as a rule we didn't jump sides alot, Did we? Sqdn's moved around some but it was a long term move, weeks, months, years.... I can't think of anyone who would move from side to side for a hour or two at a time. (Odds are their was someone who did... just can't think of a player who did right now)

When did side loyalty become a bad thing? From 1994 when I started playing AW till the day EA. killed AirWarrior I was a Bz flying FR.

CAVALRY....... <--------- missing the Good Old Days.

[Stang]

Yeah!  What he said poopyhead!

[hubsonfire]

When that loyalty gets in the way of trying to improve gameplay, it becomes problematic, and that's pretty much what we've got here, isn't it?

Having discarded my single-minded loyalty back when there were no enemies who would suffer logging in, I can say the grass is just as green on the other side. I just don't see this great evil in not flying with your cartoon squadmates for the same cartoon icon every single night, even if there's no one to fly against. Is pretending to be a patriot for a make-believe country in a game more important than the game itself?

That just seems odd to me.

[JB88]

Originally posted by Mark Luper
JB,

Word.

Mark

lol



(see below)

i see your point mark, i even agree with parts of it.  i am not even in a squad, i just attach myself to them from time to time...so it's not really that.(sp?)

i don't usually fly uber planes either.  i like the spit 8 and 9 most of all, and those have plenty of competitors...but to be flying a spit 9 one minute and have to switch to a a6m2 suddenly because five people joined in the fight, it's a bit much...perhaps i am being dramatic.  it may have been 6 or 7...i don't know.  it's usually during the daytime that i notice the largest degree of disparity.  @ night, once the two arenas have started to balance out i can sometimes get into the arena i want to right away...but until that point, i get a choice between.

early war -4
midwar - 8 (pretty big map for a head to head room)
late war orange - 120/120 (can't get into here)
late war blue - 19/120 (still can't find a decent fight in here)

same maps in both LW arenas.

when i get to come on in the afternoons, i only get little windows to fly in.  when i have to struggle to get into it, or have to wait to get into an arena where i wont waste that time looking for i fight... i waste precious time  (when i post here, i am usually working on other things and only popping in briefly...so it probably seems like i am here more than i am.)

what you say is true ... it's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things...but it sure throws a wrench in this one little pleasure of mine.


so here's what i say:

push to shove, i don't think the arena split is effective or workable in its current configuration.  does anyone really think that it is?  really?

i disagree with your notion that this a good compromise hubs.  it really isnt.  when numbers are that small and the slightest burp sends ENY out into orbit it makes it difficult to just get in and play...not instant gratification type of play, but play without hassle...within my little windows.

call me a whiner or a cynic or whatever you wish...i am certainly not the only one that feels this way.

i think that the two LW arenas and tightly wired ENY shifts are harmful to gameplay and might greatly benefit from a reconsideration.  3 would probably be better...if only because it would remove the 1st place, second place hierarchy of the arenas and allow for a better flow when using an odd  number of countries.

id rather just have one of each.  

it's not JUST about wanting this and that...it's wanting a relative consistancy.  

it's about not wanting to have to hassle with things just to get up and go.

its about freedom really.  when it comes down to it.

[Toad]

Put me in the "don't care, would never affect me" category.

I'll switch to the low side in a heartbeat if there's a good fight going on at close bases, including a CV. I'll fly whatever I can get; I rarely pick anything popular, so I'm not even cognizant of ENY 95% of the time.  I'll cheerfully fly the Zeke-2 if the action is hot. I like the Hurri I as well but you REALLY need close fights for that thing. Seems like it gets passed by hot air balloons.

As for picking an arena, I usually start with EW and progress thru MW and the two LW's simply looking for a couple of close bases with a modicum of action. Heck, if you get 2-3 guys on each side that want to fight... what else to do you need in any arena?

Simple pleasures for a simple man, I guess.

The fight's the thing. Everything else is just icing on the cake.

[yanksfan]

Originally posted by croduh
Or you could just have:


CHANGED THE COUNTRY!

let me say this in regards to that.

1) i change countrys. so its ok for me.

2) Not everyone does change countrys. so, not ok for them.

 Stop giving the same tired *** coments, it's boring and all you people that do it sound really stupid after a while.

[Yknurd]

lol, dorks!

[balance1]

ENY?!? BAH idk what that is, i fly and fight in mah SBD o' doom!

[KTM520guy]

Originally posted by The Fugitive
The arenas were split due to the Huge hordes that had developed.  

LOL

[BluKitty]

Don't confuse chess piece loyalty with the fact that sometimes a squad may try to meet together and try to enjoy some models their historical squad flew.  

Well the 56th doesn't hold a policy of trying to force members to stay on a team, so somtimes people switch at the last minute and hence can't switch to another team.....

On thing we get annoyed with is that we fly p47's and  though rare, i have experianced occasions where we can't even fly a p47 due to ENY limits.   These used to be resonably set ENY planes of 30 + excepting the November...which is uber.

When you can't even fly a d11 or d25 in MA late war, and mid-war is near empty, the other late war arena is full, and switching teams means abandoning squad mates.... it's just not a good choice.... this has been rare, but it is frustrateing.

You should be able to fly at least some P47 in late war MA. Most 25 ENY planes seem too low, and too easily limited.

[Obie303]

help me obie wan community, youre my only hope.

Use the force!:D

Obie:aok

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
It's damn sure a better idea than letting the horde have unlimited plane choice again. You've got options, the same options everyone does. The difference between you and me, is that aren't looking at this from anyone's perspective but your own.

Consider this from HT's standpoint, or that of the guys who are "loyal" to the underdog country. Shouldn't there be something in place to at least try to create a more balanced playing field?

Edit: almost forgot. No, I don't consider it optimum; I consider it a perfectly acceptable compromise. To be optimal in my mind, flight would be flat out restricted, not this limp-wristed ENY that kicks in at 0.1, while plane/gv ENY values start at 5. I'd change the values to run all the way down to 1.0, and I'd restrict flight when ENY hit 20.

Reason ENY starts at 5 -

Because of the way it is calculated there is always an ENY value, even if the country numbers difference is only 1
The 5 provides a buffer to a point where there is a big enough difference.

Without it and assuming your idea -
As soon as 1 country gets 1 more player, ENY starts restricting planes.

So at least you now know why the 5 is there and why your idea is el-toro-poopoo.

[ColKLink]

KTM 520'S got great holeshots back in the day. I had to say that.

[megadud]

Originally posted by Stang
Yeah!  What he said poopyhead!