Author Topic: ARGH I HATE CH Products (all fo them!) (Read 7843 times)

38ruk · « **Reply #135 on:** May 23, 2007, 12:18:02 PM »

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Originally posted by scottydawg
Hall Effect sensors are indeed very expensive, and I've not seen them in use outside of automotive distributors and laboratory test equipment, I can't imagine they would be appropriate for the consumer market.

Come to South Carolina, then you could probably afford some better R&D

Even going to 16 bit decoder eprom and double pots for spike elimination would be a vast improvement. Double pots are available in various resistances through the pro audio component vectors.

I might be wrong but doesn't the X-52 use a type of hall sensor for the Xand Y axis in the stick? I had mine apart and it looked like a hall . It looked like a probe that is surrounded by a magnetic field . I'm no expert so i could be some bastard design .

Helm · « **Reply #136 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:29:16 PM »

My CH gear works perfectly...and has for years...I calibrate them maybe twice a year ...best money i have ever spent

runing
CH pro throttle
CH 568 combat stick
CH pro peddals

FYI I do prefer the CH mark I rudders...but they are no longer made

Bear76 · « **Reply #137 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:41:47 PM »

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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
you should read thru the whole thread before posting things like "thin skinned"

Micheal is on the problem with Rolex, if you had read the whole thread ( every post ) you would have seen this and would not have posted such unneeded response......

Perhaps you should reread Michael's first response. That was unneccesary. I'm glad he is addressing Rolex's problem.

fuzeman · « **Reply #138 on:** May 23, 2007, 02:54:43 PM »

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Originally posted by MichaelCHProd
The wire "clips" in the Pro Pedals for the Toe Brakes became a known issue a while ago and we have since made some changes in both the wire as well as the method for assembly.

The real problem was that the people assembling them were using their long finger nails (yes mostly women ) to sink the wires down into the "clips" and they were putting a nasty pinch on the wires which if not placed correctly the movement of the pedals would stretch the wires and cause them to separate.

Yikes, I think I used the same method to push my wires into those plastic holders. Next time I open mine I better use Plan B.

I'll now run off and clip my fingernails!!!

hubsonfire · « **Reply #139 on:** May 23, 2007, 03:12:38 PM »

A good sharp steak knife is the only assembly tool you need.

DamnedRen · « **Reply #140 on:** May 23, 2007, 03:26:00 PM »

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Originally posted by MichaelCHProd
The wire "clips" in the Pro Pedals for the Toe Brakes became a known issue a while ago and we have since made some changes in both the wire as well as the method for assembly.

The real problem was that the people assembling them were using their long finger nails (yes mostly women ) to sink the wires down into the "clips" and they were putting a nasty pinch on the wires which if not placed correctly the movement of the pedals would stretch the wires and cause them to separate.

As long as we have you on the line.....

Why did CH do away with flash programming? Is it not available with digital USB sticks or was it some effort on your Company's part to save a buck?

Thanks
Ren
The Damned

airspro · « **Reply #141 on:** May 23, 2007, 03:54:25 PM »

Glad to hear Fester is up and running again

MichaelCHProd > just wanted you go pass on a BIG TY to your bosses for keeping your manufactureing here in the USA

I have bought myself a full set of CH gear , plus many extra ones for gifts and never had a real problem yet . But the toe brake wire .

I buy BFG vidieo cards , Redwing work boots etc for some of the same reasons . Well made and made in the USA .

If you want to sell stuff here , make it here , then I will have a job , and the money to buy it

again TY

Citabria · « **Reply #142 on:** May 23, 2007, 04:42:40 PM »

repost form other thread just to make sure everyone knows how awsome Ch gear is...

Thank You CH Products!
Thank You MichaelCHProd for all the help! made a CH believer out of me after all!

wow its unreal.
all I had to do was buy a Belkin powered USB hub and hook all my stuff into it instead of my PC (including my saitek x52 and x45) not only is my CH fighterstick amazing in accuracy and control with 0 dampening and 0 deadband and sliders full linear it is like glass! smooth!

its turned ah into a whole new experience because now all my controllers have been so improved by this little powered USB hub that it is amazing the difference.

my 2 1/2 yr old CH pro pedals which jittered? GLASS!! with 0 deadband and dampening!

even my crappy old x45? GLASS!

my x52? GLASS!

if you see the raw numbers fluctuate at all in the AH control setup screen try buying this little usb hub and you might be amazed at the difference in how smooth everything suddenly is no matter who makes it.

unreal

this rocks!
everything rocks!

KTM520guy · « **Reply #143 on:** May 23, 2007, 05:05:20 PM »

I've had zero problems with my CH gear. In fact, I like them so much I put a CH stick in my real airplane.

TequilaChaser · « **Reply #144 on:** May 23, 2007, 05:25:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Bear76
Perhaps you should reread Michael's first response. That was unneccesary. I'm glad he is addressing Rolex's problem.

Rolex opened the door with:

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CH does have an image of providing good customer service in the US. If I buy another set, I'll probably end up with yours after you've sent them back.
It appears to me that all those returned products get boxed up and shipped overseas, as is, since the warranty is shorter and it's cheaper to buy a new controller than to ship them back for warranty work.

rereading Micheal's first response, I see im defending his company. He states that :

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ahhhh the Internet... where everyone gets a chance to slander with no repercussions.

this seems like a defending reply to me...........nothing "thin skinned" about that I can see, nope nadda

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The ONLY thing that ever leaves this factory is NEW product. If it is defective then it comes back here and the offending piece(s) are thrown away. They never go back out to end users. End of story.

then he followed up with the above response to verify that what Rolex posted was not the case. Then he later in the thread asked Rolex to email him, and said what Rolex posted was unsat regarding the trouble Rolex went thru with the distributor overseas...

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Originally posted by MichaelCHProd

now serving Slash27

I see no reason to continue to banter with you as this is not my house and it will add nothing to the thread. So I announce you as the "War Hero of the Oppressed" for this thread Your sash and anointed crown await your arrival at the CH Tech Support Office.

Micheal, you might want to think about awarding Bear76 this same award or one like it, seems the ~Hells Angels~ squad has it out for you for some reason.......

I think if a rep from a company that takes the time to surf these boards at Aces High and offers to help fix problems that their customers are having, does not invite others to just inadvertently flame them for no apparent reasoning.......

3 wrongs still doesn't make it right, no matter what math you know......

Angry Samoan · « **Reply #145 on:** May 23, 2007, 06:35:51 PM »

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Originally posted by TequilaChaser

Micheal, you might want to think about awarding Bear76 this same award or one like it, seems the ~Hells Angels~ squad has it out for you for some reason.......

for

out loud man.

Why is it a squad thing?

I must have missed the memo.

TequilaChaser · « **Reply #146 on:** May 23, 2007, 07:55:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Angry Samoan

Why is it a squad thing?

you're right, it isn't a squad thing, dropping it....

Rolex · « **Reply #147 on:** May 23, 2007, 08:31:36 PM »

Thanks, TC.

Sigh. Let me say this very clearly:

- I have no problem with Michael whatsoever and believe he is here acting in good faith to support his customers. I believe he is sincere that the product being shipped is all new.

- I have tried to have a discussion with him, not tried to argue with him or provoke anyone.

- I have not tried to enlist any support and have no "campaign" against Michael or his company. I have not even spoken to anyone about this thread on line. Some squad members are aware of my bad luck in CH controllers from previous discussions, but I'm not a hot head about it.

Brooke · « **Reply #148 on:** May 23, 2007, 08:39:45 PM »

*AND* . . . we all want Rolex's setup to work well for him!

Rolex, I hope it works out as well as things ended up for Fester.

Bear76 · « **Reply #149 on:** May 24, 2007, 01:45:44 AM »

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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
Rolex opened the door with:

rereading Micheal's first response, I see im defending his company. He states that :
this seems like a defending reply to me...........nothing "thin skinned" about that I can see, nope nadda

then he followed up with the above response to verify that what Rolex posted was not the case. Then he later in the thread asked Rolex to email him, and said what Rolex posted was unsat regarding the trouble Rolex went thru with the distributor overseas...

Micheal, you might want to think about awarding Bear76 this same award or one like it, seems the ~Hells Angels~ squad has it out for you for some reason.......

I think if a rep from a company that takes the time to surf these boards at Aces High and offers to help fix problems that their customers are having, does not invite others to just inadvertently flame them for no apparent reasoning.......

3 wrongs still doesn't make it right, no matter what math you know......

Wow..I know how much problem Rolex has had(you hear those things in a squad ya know) and just wanted to see it resolved, not have it dismissed outright as an untruth. I'm glad Rolex is now getting help, which was the point all along. I'm sure Skuzzy appreciates you continuing the "flame" in your response here"for no apparent reasoning"