Author Topic: ARGH I HATE CH Products (all fo them!) (Read 7852 times)

Simaril · « **Reply #15 on:** May 19, 2007, 04:55:30 PM »

Cit --

I had that problem develop on my 13 month old CH rudders, and it wasn't a small fluctuation. I'd see both centering drift of several hundred points, and lots of spiking. (My X52 has been rock solid...go figure.) Anyway, one really good thing about the CH stuff is that the potentiometers can be purchased separately for $5 or so.

I didnt even do that -- I opened up the pedals, and switched the potentiometer for the brake with the one for the sliding rudder input. Since the brake "centers" with the pot at full deflection, it completely avoids the defective center region. And the pot from the brake centers just fine.

Though I'd never claim to be an expert, I'd bet you're looking at a pot on the way out.

FiLtH · « **Reply #16 on:** May 19, 2007, 05:10:10 PM »

If MS started building the Sidewinder2 ffb again and charged 500 bucks for them...Id buy 3.

jaxxo · « **Reply #17 on:** May 19, 2007, 05:40:38 PM »

i was so happy when my ch stick showed up in the mail...after a week it now holds up books on the top shelf.....i use the logicrap, its great for 3 months or so

DamnedRen · « **Reply #18 on:** May 19, 2007, 05:55:06 PM »

Are you telling us the CH stuff is for sale?

How much ya wanting. seein as how bad they are?????

Thanks

Ren
The Damned

crockett · « **Reply #19 on:** May 19, 2007, 06:00:46 PM »

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Originally posted by FiLtH
If MS started building the Sidewinder2 ffb again and charged 500 bucks for them...Id buy 3.

Yea it's strange the one thing M$ actually got right, they stopped producing. I wonder if it has anything to do with the Xbox and trying to push all their gaming product towards Xbox sales.

BiPoLaR · « **Reply #20 on:** May 19, 2007, 06:06:41 PM »

i got CH pedels off Ebay used em for a week then sold them back on Ebay...now i use a $20 twist stick....woot

Citabria · « **Reply #21 on:** May 19, 2007, 06:12:13 PM »

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Originally posted by FiLtH
If MS started building the Sidewinder2 ffb again and charged 500 bucks for them...Id buy 3.

this was the best stick ever made

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #22 on:** May 19, 2007, 06:17:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Citabria
you will be in the world of joystick hell that I am in.

I had the FF2 and it was the most realistic resisitance with its motors set to center only and the most precise stick of them all. none of this analog fluctuation BS.

WTF is wrong with this industry? the only decent sticks are discontinued and no one is stepping up to make anything optical or digital its all a bunch of crappy analog signal garbage.

Are you using the old game port CH gear or USB? If you're using the legacy game port gear, make sure that you run CHJOY which will allow you to fine tune the potentiometers and then calibrate the stick in Windows.

If you're using a USB port, make sure the hub you have them connected too is powered. CH gear do not like unpowered USB hubs.

If you still get spikes on full deflection, then you should try cleaning the contacts on the potentiometers.

If you still get spikes after doing the above then most likely you received a stick with a bad potentiometer. I'd then contact CH support and send in the gear for them to fix or replace.

ack-ack

Kermit de frog · « **Reply #23 on:** May 19, 2007, 06:24:34 PM »

After 5 years, my MS sidewinder Precision Pro 2 still works except for the hat switch. It glitches all the time, but for over a year, I've used TrackIR so it isn't a problem.

Right now my CH pedals spike whenever I use them. I'm getting the "do not move your controls so rapidly" message everyday. Grrr... I'm going to try to open them up and clean them. I've had them for about 13 months now. Spiking on the ch pedals just started a week ago. If I get off my arse, I'd try to come up with a way to replace my pots with optical sensors.

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #24 on:** May 19, 2007, 06:32:37 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
oh I love my sidewinder stick. I have the Force Feedback 2 and I dunno what I'll do if it ever breaks.

you do what i did and buy a $30 saitek and cry yourself to sleep at nights.

worst part is my 9yo sidewinder 3D pro still works fine but i dont have a gameport soundcard.

Xargos · « **Reply #25 on:** May 19, 2007, 06:34:29 PM »

If you take the CH pedals apart, pay very close attention to where everything is. I've only had to clean mine twice in six years.

The only CH product I ever had problems with (I have the Fighter Stick, Throttle, Pedals and MFP) was a Pro Throttle but I have not had any problems with it's replacement.

Citabria · « **Reply #26 on:** May 19, 2007, 06:58:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Are you using the old game port CH gear or USB? If you're using the legacy game port gear, make sure that you run CHJOY which will allow you to fine tune the potentiometers and then calibrate the stick in Windows.

If you're using a USB port, make sure the hub you have them connected too is powered. CH gear do not like unpowered USB hubs.

If you still get spikes on full deflection, then you should try cleaning the contacts on the potentiometers.

If you still get spikes after doing the above then most likely you received a stick with a bad potentiometer. I'd then contact CH support and send in the gear for them to fix or replace.

ack-ack

using new USB versions of pedals and fighterstick with an x45 throttle.

can anyone give me some Aces High Deviation numbers? I tend to see from 31900 to 32500 ie a 300-600 point fluctuation. is this what you see on the analog readout for X or Y axis ack ack?

I would just like to be sure they aren't all this bad before I send it back and get back the same lousy fluctuations in a nother new stick.

Citabria · « **Reply #27 on:** May 19, 2007, 07:23:43 PM »

and they are all hookedup to the motherboard usb ports

Vad · « **Reply #28 on:** May 19, 2007, 08:21:33 PM »

I have set of USB CH ( pedals, throttle, stick) two years. Had to calibrate them once 2 years ago, never did it again. All of them are steady like a rock.
Something is wrong with your hardware.

halcyon · « **Reply #29 on:** May 19, 2007, 09:10:58 PM »

I bought CH pedals about 6 months ago, and they've been extremely steady and accurate.
Just last month I bought the CH Fighterstick, and immediately upon using it I found that the X axis calibration was off by a considerable amount.
I sent it back and they overnighted a new one to me for free, which worked great.

My theory is they get damaged in shipping, because I can't imagine that many bad sticks/gear being shipped out at about $150 a pop.