Author Topic: ARGH I HATE CH Products (all fo them!) (Read 7735 times)

scottydawg · « **Reply #60 on:** May 21, 2007, 07:52:02 PM »

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Originally posted by MichaelCHProd
Scottydawg,

We have some Hall Effect controllers but they are for the Industrial side (currently ) so they are very expensive.

We are also looking at some other positioning technologies but as we do everything here in San Diego it takes a LONG time to find the right fit for us and make it economically viable here State side.

Hall Effect sensors are indeed very expensive, and I've not seen them in use outside of automotive distributors and laboratory test equipment, I can't imagine they would be appropriate for the consumer market.

Come to South Carolina, then you could probably afford some better R&D

Even going to 16 bit decoder eprom and double pots for spike elimination would be a vast improvement. Double pots are available in various resistances through the pro audio component vectors.

Shaky · « **Reply #61 on:** May 21, 2007, 07:56:17 PM »

MichaelCHProd check your PM's please

scottydawg · « **Reply #62 on:** May 21, 2007, 07:57:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Shaky
MichaelCHProd check your PM's please

With a handle like ShakyStick, this can't be good.

Lusche · « **Reply #63 on:** May 21, 2007, 07:58:40 PM »

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Originally posted by scottydawg
Hall Effect sensors are indeed very expensive, and I've not seen them in use outside of automotive distributors and laboratory test equipment, I can't imagine they would be appropriate for the consumer market.

My peds have them

scottydawg · « **Reply #64 on:** May 21, 2007, 07:59:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Lusche
My peds have them

??elaborate?? Are you nerding out or did you buy them retail?

Lusche · « **Reply #65 on:** May 21, 2007, 08:05:53 PM »

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Originally posted by scottydawg
??elaborate?? Are you nerding out or did you buy them retail?

I got the Simped Pro USB.

http://www.dhs-electronic.de/home.htm

Citabria · « **Reply #66 on:** May 21, 2007, 08:08:18 PM »

MichaelCHProd I posted two replies to the CH forum thread but they havent show up they said they have to be reviewed by a moderator?

can you give me the name of a Quality powered USB hub that has had good results with CH sticks experiencing this problem?

i have an antec power supply which is supposed to be very good but its three years old so who knows maybe its that.

i tested the stick in ch manager and it bounces around when centered on its own.

when the ball in the target box is pushed left or up it bounces around a bit and when it is pushed down or right it bounces around pretty severly.

Citabria · « **Reply #67 on:** May 21, 2007, 08:20:49 PM »

but all that aside disregarding potentometers powered usb hubs and power supplies why only 8 bit pots? why not 16 bit? why not high end sensors that one would expect in the best available stick made?

the field is open for you guys.
you have hardcore aviation enthusiasts paying hundreds of dollars for in the box like new sidewinders because they arent made anymore and nothiing else in the entire joystick market comes close.
microsoft pulled the plug on their space age sidewinders with optical recievers and there is a hole in the market where this technology is desired but unavailable.

the technology of the CH sticks seams to have remained unchange as far as the sensors (potentometers) go and it seems like it is becoming a dated and obsolete

is there any kits or ways to retrofit a CH stick with better pots or somthing of higher quality or accuracy?

scottydawg · « **Reply #68 on:** May 21, 2007, 08:25:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Lusche
I got the Simped Pro USB.

http://www.dhs-electronic.de/home.htm

woo, how much did those set you back?

BTW, that website is HILARIOUS. Worst engrish I've seen outside of Asia ever.

Lusche · « **Reply #69 on:** May 21, 2007, 08:33:39 PM »

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Originally posted by scottydawg
woo, how much did those set you back?

I payed 148€ for them, that's around 200$ today. I would have liked to buy the Simped F16 with toebrakes, but they are almost double the price...

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Originally posted by scottydawg
BTW, that website is HILARIOUS. Worst engrish I've seen outside of Asia ever.

Xargos · « **Reply #70 on:** May 21, 2007, 08:33:57 PM »

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Come to South Carolina, then you could probably afford some better R&D

Yep, I bet the Charleston/North Charleston area would give you a big tax break if you offered us some new jobs.

Citabria · « **Reply #71 on:** May 21, 2007, 08:40:38 PM »

well there ya go Hall sensors in the competitions rudder pedals available and looks like its not connected to microsoft so its unlikely to be discontinued for not marketing to the Xbox crowd.

to bad the site is hard to navigate and in a foriegn language.
these pedals have been around for a while too though they are a bit iinnacessable to the US market with the current state of their website.

scottydawg · « **Reply #72 on:** May 21, 2007, 08:41:41 PM »

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Yep, I bet the Charleston/North Charleston area would give you a big tax break if you offered us some new jobs.

Totally. Look what they did for Google.

eh · « **Reply #73 on:** May 21, 2007, 08:49:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
After 5 years, my MS sidewinder Precision Pro 2 still works except for the hat switch. It glitches all the time, but for over a year, I've used TrackIR so it isn't a problem.

Wow Kermit you just saved me! I am down to my last MSFFPro stick and have three in storage with faulty hat switches. Otherwise, they are functional. Goin' out to get a Track IR right now!

Someone in Aces High recommended that we MSFFPro fans should do the following. Put a fully functional one in a box, wrap in plain brown paper with a big "TOP SECRET" marked on the box, and mail it to China. One week later, you will see copies flooding the market.

The best danged stick ever made, even as a twisty.

Xargos · « **Reply #74 on:** May 21, 2007, 08:55:45 PM »

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Someone in Aces High recommended that we MSFFPro fans should do the following. Put a fully functional one in a box, wrap in plain brown paper with a big "TOP SECRET" marked on the box, and mail it to China. One week later, you will see copies flooding the market.