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Offline Sundowner

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« on: May 26, 2007, 11:12:33 PM »
It seems Blair wants to add a new dimension to the Big Brother campaign to "protect" the people.

"Stop and question" powers for the police without cause to suspect any crime has taken place.

With these kinds of trends in our modern first world societies how hard is it to imagine the world of the global police state of say...2030?

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Blair wants to give UK police more anti-terror muscle

LONDON, England (Reuters) -- British Prime Minister Tony Blair plans to push through a new anti-terrorism law before he steps down next month giving "wartime" powers to police to stop and question people, a newspaper reported on Sunday.

Blair, who is due to resign June 27 after a decade in office, wrote in an article in The Sunday Times that his government planned to publish new anti-terrorism proposals "within the next few weeks".

An interior ministry spokeswoman confirmed the government was looking at including a "stop and question" power in the new legislation. "We are considering a range of powers for the bill and 'stop and question' is one of them," she said.

The "stop and question" power would enable police to interrogate people about who they are, where they have been and where they were going, The Sunday Times said. Police would not need to suspect a crime had taken place.

If suspects failed to stop or refused to answer questions, they could be charged with a crime and fined, The Sunday Times said. Police already have the power to stop and search people but have no right to ask them their identity and movements.

The Sunday Times said the powers already existed in Northern Ireland. Civil rights groups viewed the plan to extend them to the rest of Britain as an attack on civil liberties, it said......

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2007, 11:25:20 PM »
I'm sure Blair is going to be able to pass that law all by himself.  :O
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2007, 01:41:02 AM »
Personally I agree with giving the police more powers.

At the moment They are soft and the whole justice system is a shambles.

I'd rather have them asking suspicious people questions there on the spot rather than waiting a week getting an arrest warrant.  Either way criminals end up with light sentences and cushy jails.

There is no FEAR factor for criminals/terrorists anymore they know that most of the time they will get away with it.

Makes middle eastern measures seem appropriate.
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2007, 01:55:19 AM »
Must admit I'd like the police to do more, but then I'm a bit biased as my wife and I are getting hassle from the neighbourhood chavs.........and agree with Bruv about the state of the prisons etc........no one seems to be worried about the victims rights, just the crim's rights....


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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2007, 02:15:04 AM »
Sorry to hear about the chavs wurzel.

I'm lucky where I live there arent too many young uns around that chav age.  When I was growing up there were quite a few more of us but we never sunk as low as what some get up too these days.  At least not from what i recall lol.

Personally I blame the parents, America, the education system and Tony Blair.  Not necessarily in that order.
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2007, 02:33:08 AM »
unfortunately the world is changing.  Accept the fact that the planet is packed with human beings, and there is a dog religion that promotes murder through suicide on the rampage across the globe.
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2007, 02:50:52 AM »
I'm not worried about the terrorists.  It's the "chavs" that need educating and sorted out and hopefully these extra police powers can help with that.

In my opinion its not down to the police to stamp out bad behaviour in todays youth its their parents and the schools.

Laws are in place for a reason and when they arent adhered too because of the above the Police are needed to keep the peace.  They are becoming increasingly powerless/not bothering because of the amount of watermelon they have to deal with.

If the UK slips towards a police state so be it.  Discipline is needed.

I wont go into my opinions on US foreign policy.


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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2007, 03:19:12 AM »
whats a chav? some sort of street thug?  Just shoot em.
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2007, 03:22:34 AM »
Cant shoot them guns NOT allowed ;)

If i took a cricket/baseball bat to their legs im the one who will get done for GBH/ assault taken to court fined community service.  If i did it twice i would go to jail.

plus they would have a pack  they arent lonewolves.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2007, 03:27:32 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2007, 03:28:14 AM »
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I'm not worried about the terrorists.  It's the "chavs" that need educating and sorted out and hopefully these extra police powers can help with that.


LOL yeah... better off being a police state than a chav state :)
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2007, 03:29:33 AM »
yessss  herr flick!
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2007, 03:33:39 AM »
maybe we can ask Boroda for some tips.

a DO's and DONT's  kinda thing
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2007, 03:37:32 AM »
You birts had a good thing going back in the day when you sent the riffraff down to Australia. Why change that winning formula? :D

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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2007, 03:43:40 AM »
They all came back and are working as bar staff.

Need to ship em out again :)
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