OK this multi-arena crap has gotta go

[Max]

Originally posted by LePaul
Well Yay me!

My my, you are a kinder, wittier HiTech since you quit smoking!

Hitech quit too? OK Pyro, what about you?

WTG gents!

[hitech]

Pyro quit over a year ago.

[soda72]

What if on the main entry screen show only one selection for "late war arena".  When the user selects the arena, have the system determine if this is the first user of a particular squad to enter the arena.  Assign the user to 'orange' or 'blue' arena based on the current situation of arenas.  Also automaticly pick the country they will fly for to keep sides balanced.  As additional members of the squad decides to enter the arena, the system will attempt to assign that user to the same arena and country as other squad members.  This should let the system load balance the arenas progmaticly while keeping squad integerity.

[hitech]

Interesting Idea Soda

[coinbird]

/* click *\

That arena is full
Please choose another.

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by soda72
What if on the main entry screen show only one selection for "late war arena".  When the user selects the arena, have the system determine if this is the first user of a particular squad to enter the arena.  Assign the user to 'orange' or 'blue' arena based on the current situation of arenas.  Also automaticly pick the country they will fly for to keep sides balanced.  As additional members of the squad decides to enter the arena, the system will attempt to assign that user to the same arena and country as other squad members.  This should let the system load balance the arenas progmaticly while keeping squad integerity.

Will this load the arenas evenly?  I like to fly in an arena full of people, more targets.  I'd hate to have two arenas with say:  125/200 in each.
 I like the idea, heretofore mentioned concern notwithstanding,  but you will have those w/ chesspiece loyalty up in arms.

[soda72]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
Will this load the arenas evenly?  I like to fly in an arena full of people, more targets.  I'd hate to have two arenas with say:  125/200 in each.
 I like the idea, heretofore mentioned concern notwithstanding,  but you will have those w/ chesspiece loyalty up in arms.

Depends on how HTC would want do it... They could load up on one arena first then the other  .. or they could load up both arenas evenly...

or do a combination of both..  maybe load up on one arena during non-prime time hours and load up both evenly during prime time hours... Since it would be done progmaticly it would give them a lot of options to consider...

[FALCONWING]

I have purposefully stayed out of this thread because i was definitely one of the guys most against the current setup...

here are my observations for what they are worth:

in regards to one MA vs 2 MA's:
pros: overall i like the current setup...hasnt really hurt the squad like i thought it would...numbers seem more even overall and i dont feel the need to fly as much as i used too (yes i see this as overall good...i still love the game but i know the world wont end if im not there defending etc)

cons:  when the arenas split it took some drama away from the game...i dont really care about taking or not taking bases as much as i used too...i mostly look to furball and for some reason i care more about stats and score then i used too...even took the number one attack rank a few camps ago...im not sure if this is all overall good or bad...i guess retention will dictate that (ie if you dont get too attached/motivated will people continue to play for years)

my favorite change:  uncapturable bases and the new reset rules..i think this forces all countries to fight each other and even though we still get nights of country banging...its nowhere near as bad as it was before or at least it seems more balanced..so thumbs up:aok

my least favorite change:  seen a lot of good squads dwindle away...the new ones seem to be more score oriented/rank etc

the ew/mw:  scores there shouldnt count towards LWs...they are milkrunning havens and i think that hurts their ability to develop (ie eny high because there are 10 guys milkrunnning bases will make other guys log off/switch arenas) also shorten distances between fields if the planes are going to be slower/older models...i would fly there more if i didnt have to spend forever taking a hurricane to a darbar to see it disappear...

so overall i am embarrassed to say that i like the changes despite my strong opposition in the past...(stop smiling hitech)

i dont like soda's idea however because flying with who you want is 90% of why i still log on and i would discourage changes that interfere with relationship building...AH is essentially my "pool hall/bar" that i go to to hangout with guys and blowoff steam...i know i can make 500 new friends every night but i dont want to..im happy with those i know (in and outside of the squad)

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by soda72
What if on the main entry screen show only one selection for "late war arena".  When the user selects the arena, have the system determine if this is the first user of a particular squad to enter the arena.  Assign the user to 'orange' or 'blue' arena based on the current situation of arenas.  Also automaticly pick the country they will fly for to keep sides balanced.  As additional members of the squad decides to enter the arena, the system will attempt to assign that user to the same arena and country as other squad members.  This should let the system load balance the arenas progmaticly while keeping squad integerity.

I've suggested that one before.  It has a further benefit.  I've noticed lately that the community is seperating between the Blue and Orange arenas.  I often see the same players playing in the same arena.  This would mix it up again.

The downside is that, because the LW arenas now seem over-crowded, my first propensity is to go to the lower populated arena.  If it's not dominated by Bish I stay.  If it is I (try to) switch to the other arena.


As to the Euro guys having to play in lightly numbered arenas (I've seen it recently on Friday afternoons... I had to log into a LW arena with 35 players in it) set a minimum cap of about 250 and let the players decide where they want to go.  One idle arena isn't going to hurt anything.

[FireDrgn]

I dont think u should be forced to fly for a differant country. Server should ask if you want to wait ect.... "U might never get selected to fly for country of choice.

Would not everyone have to be in a squad or would people in squads get first priority based on a squad member allready in a area

[ghi]

on september 13 we mark 1 year since this cataclysmic event "MA closing",the wounds are still  bleeding on  BB,

[Stegahorse]

I suggest something that has been done before.
HTC has demonstrated that it can support 2 MA,
Make one Relaxed, a.k.a. Arcade arena and the other FULL Realism.
Have a place for the point mongers,....er Fast action arcade players to be happy and a place for those who desire the higher form of strategic flying and the challenges that are missing from the present setup.
I'd even pay $5 a more a month for an arena less arcade, $10 even.

This game is a very good deal from an "out of pocket" stand point. We have excellent support and reasonable "sportsmanship" monitoring.
HTC's customer relations are far above most other online gaming support staff.
Just how long would you put up with the clientelle here?

IT IS TIME WE SHOW OUR APPRECIATION!!! LET'S GIVE HTC A RAISE!!!
$15 a month IS cheap for the services rendered.
Reward these people and thank them by offering a raise!
Then ask for the world.

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by soda72
Also automaticly pick the country they will fly for to keep sides balanced.  

OMG, I can't fly for that side!  I'm not disloyal!  I'll get thrown out of my squad if I fly for that side!  I have to log off instead of flying for anyone but the one true mother/father/sister/brotherland!  It's my $14.95 a month, I want to fly my favorite plane with my favorite people for my favorite side!

- oldman

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Stegahorse
I suggest something that has been done before.
HTC has demonstrated that it can support 2 MA,
Make one Relaxed, a.k.a. Arcade arena and the other FULL Realism.
Have a place for the point mongers,....er Fast action arcade players to be happy and a place for those who desire the higher form of strategic flying and the challenges that are missing from the present setup.

Can you define what an arcade arena would be like?

And please define a higher form of strategic flying please.

[Stegahorse]

Not the point.
If you want something, negotiate.
If you want something of value, offer something of value!
Be fair!
How long has Aces High been $14.95/month?
Would you stay that long at your job without a raise?

It's time to put up or walk!
Look at all the posts you all have made and not offered any gratuity.
Would you get away with that at a nice restaurant?
Would you be welcomed back to that restaurant, or would the service get any better for your complaining?

You want something, HTC is a business. It follows that offering more money monthly would be an incentive to them.

(Dale, is $5 more a month enough to get deadlier guns, or a 5% reduction on the drag co-effient on my plane enough? 10?)


How about $5 a month for squad priveledges in arenas?
Really though, what DO you want, what is it really worth to you?

Think about it.