Author Topic: Ok this ack is bs (Read 2387 times)

Guppy35 · « **Reply #60 on:** June 05, 2007, 11:55:04 AM »

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Originally posted by 33Vortex
Now that I totally agree with! Shooting through mountains is unheard of in WW2 afaik. And the speed with which the hi alt flak keep up with you at extreme ranges is not physically possible. The corrections are too accurate on turning fighters. I was also exploded by flak once in a 262, moving away from the ack base at med alt and 500 mph, the range and accuracy of those guns are totally unrealistic.

You've spent a lot of time in real flak have you?

cleve · « **Reply #61 on:** June 05, 2007, 12:05:00 PM »

Ack is fine they way it is, we all have to fly in it and deal with it, I jink and dink and dunk. Sometimes I get hit...sometimes not.

As far as pilots wounds and people making it home, depends on what the bullet hit once it made entry, if it was a 20mm bullet then you basically had everything torn up as it is a big bullet.

dedalos · « **Reply #62 on:** June 05, 2007, 12:13:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
You've spent a lot of time in real flak have you?

Well, I've been married for 11 years so, yes I have

Bodhi · « **Reply #63 on:** June 05, 2007, 01:28:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Zazen13
Furthermore, unlike in real life, a large AA artillery piece was not detroyed by machine gun fire like it is in AH. The crew may have been disabled , but it could be re-manned...

Zazen

Zazen, not to be rude, but you are seriously underestimating the power of a .50 cal. They can and will destroy a gun (while most likely not the barrel of any large calibre) and more importantly it's traverse and elevation systems, along with any sighting or power supplies.

storch · « **Reply #64 on:** June 05, 2007, 05:10:51 PM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
Well, I've been married for 11 years so, yes I have

midnight Target · « **Reply #65 on:** June 05, 2007, 05:31:29 PM »

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Originally posted by redman555
instead of being 500% accurate make it like 80%

Jeanyus....

Sincraft · « **Reply #66 on:** June 06, 2007, 11:39:20 AM »

There is a FINE line between: balance and gameplay / reality, and absurdity!

I like the ack. I fear it. Others dont and constantly fly through it without issue. I die immediately and have learned to fly LOW away from it while twisting my wings violently. It still gets me if I go for another round, but I always end up with a ding.

I do believe they should 'retard' the ack a bit if you are flying at mach past it...it does only make sense...not much, just a tiny bitsy tweak on it.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #67 on:** June 06, 2007, 11:58:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Sincraft
There is a FINE line between: balance and gameplay / reality, and absurdity!

I like the ack. I fear it. Others dont and constantly fly through it without issue. I die immediately and have learned to fly LOW away from it while twisting my wings violently. It still gets me if I go for another round, but I always end up with a ding.

I do believe they should 'retard' the ack a bit if you are flying at mach past it...it does only make sense...not much, just a tiny bitsy tweak on it.

Funny, you just described how the WW2 pilots dealt with flak at an airfield. One pass, haul A**. They'd get as low as they could as they exited the field. And they didn't go back for a second pass.

Kinda sounds like HTC has it right

GooseAW · « **Reply #68 on:** June 06, 2007, 12:11:10 PM »

I too think the ack is as appropriate as it's ever been.

You cannot presume to fly over an enemy field that is protected by ack, as in the real war, and do loopdyloops and expect not to get hit.

I hear my squaddies complain about it alot but I don't get taken down by it much as long as I don't maintain a steady course for too long a little damage is all I seem to take. Oh, and don't try to vulch while the ack is still up...

storch · « **Reply #69 on:** June 06, 2007, 12:15:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
Funny, you just described how the WW2 pilots dealt with flak at an airfield. One pass, haul A**. They'd get as low as they could as they exited the field. And they didn't go back for a second pass.

Kinda sounds like HTC has it right

if only it indiscriminately killed friend or foe in the air. once it's firing at an enemy the missed shots should kill friendlies as well if they happen to be struck by it.

hitech · « **Reply #70 on:** June 06, 2007, 12:21:29 PM »

It already does that Storch

Guppy35 · « **Reply #71 on:** June 06, 2007, 12:27:41 PM »

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Originally posted by GooseAW
I too think the ack is as appropriate as it's ever been.

You cannot presume to fly over an enemy field that is protected by ack, as in the real war, and do loopdyloops and expect not to get hit.

I hear my squaddies complain about it alot but I don't get taken down by it much as long as I don't maintain a steady course for too long a little damage is all I seem to take. Oh, and don't try to vulch while the ack is still up...

You mentioned the underlying theme in this thread.

"I can't vulch with the ack as tough as it is!"

Which was the point of it after all

OOZ662 · « **Reply #72 on:** June 06, 2007, 04:48:41 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
if only it indiscriminately killed friend or foe in the air. once it's firing at an enemy the missed shots should kill friendlies as well if they happen to be struck by it.

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Originally posted by hitech
It already does that Storch

Yes, but a bit more in depth; any mannable round that doesn't hit an enemy is null and void. No damage is done anywhere; no killshooter, no friendly fire. However, anything an auto-ack hits is damaged, friend or foe. I'm not sure if that's true with objects, however (ie if you sit in a chute behind an enemy hanger, if that enemy hanger is damaged by the enemy auto ack).

The easiest way to experience this is to attack slow-speed bombers under fire from a task force's automatic 5" shells. They'll pop you too.