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Offline VOR

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« on: June 02, 2007, 10:10:52 AM »
Some of the opinions in here come as no surprise; soldiers are asking for more stopping power across the board for their small arms.

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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2007, 10:59:43 AM »
Same old story, I always preferred the M14, over the M16.... But I'm a big guy, and alot of the little guys had problems handling the old 14...
Without the bipod, it was a major handfull on Rock and Roll... Even for me..

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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2007, 11:50:17 AM »
Wow, look at that.  50 years later and the M16 still sucks.  Surprised?
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2007, 01:07:00 PM »
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Wow, look at that.  50 years later and the M16 still sucks.  Surprised?

Laser, the M16 doesnt suck, it just doesnt meet current requirements anymore.  Remember the M16 was designed to compensate for the limp wristed, wimpy, eastern white boys that never shot a gun before, were afraid of recoil and couldnt carry anything heavier than 10 pounds  :cool:

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2007, 02:06:56 PM »
Airscrew that's going to leave a mark......  :lol
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2007, 02:23:50 PM »
Yeah well, he speaks the truth.


In all reality the us gov. has been stepping up cal size on its rifles AND handguns.


One prototype i have seen is a beefed up colt 1911.
holds two more rounds,and fired short .50's

They also have more .50's in design for rifles.
See kids, the major draw back was recoil and weight.

With the new anti recoil systems made in the past 5 years every weapon should be made for .50's
Logic dictates that if the united states military is pressing larger cal weapons into service, they may be planing on shooting at thing's no other rifle would stand a chance against.

we will be using a ever growing number of unmaned tanks, helo's and such into service.
If the enemy "china,russia,pakistan,iran .ect" will be using the thing they have shown, im willing to bet these weapons will be to put "rather large holes" into such said devices.

I mean, honda made little robots that can dance in perfect formation holding chinese fans. "ghey"

But the fact these things could stand on one foot,walk up & down stairs .ect
You code them lil' sob's to hold a gun,and reload it.
You  can make a 2 million man army, nothing ever said they had to be flesh and blood.
Belive me, you wont want to be hammering down on those things with some small cal pos. 1970's rifle.


.50's are IN!



Always remember science fiction is based on science fact.
many belive a terminator or unmaned helocopter that hunts humans is bull.

Look around you, what they are truely capable would make even john conner **** himself.

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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2007, 02:44:07 PM »
^^^^^^:rofl :rofl :rofl

The guy who says all war is murder is an expert on weapons.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2007, 03:51:38 PM »
Ye gads fishu is multiplying....  :eek: :huh
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2007, 04:02:14 PM »
Watching History channel or some such last night, convinced me of the need for better stopping power. Some insurgents had taken adrenalin or something and simply wouldn't die in spite of having mags emptied into them and having the walls caved in on them with an Abrams.
You really need someone to be carrying something that simply blows them away.

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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2007, 04:09:44 PM »
Well, to me, 9mm and 5.56mm are great for plinking and practice, but combat is best left to 10mm and 7.62mm and up.
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2007, 04:29:19 PM »
With the advancement of personal armor, it maybe time increase the firepower of our troops standard weapons.

P.S.  We also need to be looking at sonic, laser and rail guns as well.  The future is here.
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2007, 05:05:09 PM »
Dunno about bein' an expert.

And yeah, thats just my opinion about war and murder.
right wrong or indiffrent.


.50's own you.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2007, 08:17:05 PM »
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With the advancement of personal armor, it maybe time increase the firepower of our troops standard weapons.

P.S.  We also need to be looking at sonic, laser and rail guns as well.  The future is here.


When was the last time America fought an army that wore body armor?

Try not to think too hard on this one, it's a simple answer.
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2007, 08:33:57 PM »
You're continuing the fine tradition of planning for the previous war, laser.  Well done.
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2007, 09:04:10 PM »
HK has released a 7.62 revamped M16 like concept. It is being looked at by the U.S. for limited use.

http://www.hk-usa.com/images/shared/HK417%20Product%20Sheet.pdf

http://www.hkpro.com/hk416.htm
« Last Edit: June 02, 2007, 09:06:40 PM by bustr »
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