Author Topic: Suggested Mosquito lineup for Aces High (Read 5056 times)

Squire · « **Reply #15 on:** June 06, 2007, 01:57:22 PM »

Forgot to add "self sealing tanks please" which they had.

The Mossie was not a IJAAF a/c.

As its modelled now in AH it gives the same protection as an A6M2 Zero. I think not.

Laurie · « **Reply #16 on:** June 06, 2007, 02:12:16 PM »

I would really love to see the mossie bloom in Aces High. It is a really attractive aircraft and a 2-engined beast of a plane. I think our current flight charecteristics of our AH2 mossie are a bit suspect as they dont really co-inside with many accounts.

as bruv said,
mossie mossie mossie, oi oi oi!

Krusty · « **Reply #17 on:** June 06, 2007, 02:39:03 PM »

Guppy: I've got a book that lists that Mossie as having flown through a plume of cascading (and burning) petrol after it shot down a LW bomber at night, rather than a V1 (which would have more shrapnel damage then burn damage, I'd think!)

Fire: Maybe the fire is that incendiary rounds are imbedding in the wooden frame and setting that on fire. Keep in mind that the reason the Hindenburg went down so lightning fast was probably the paint on the outside of the skin. Paint, glues, adhesives, all the chemicals put into building a mossie, are almost all flamable. Once flame gets going it can rupture fuel lines, melt protective coatings, whatever.

Might be that HTC made it light up because of this, and just decided the best way was to make the fuel takes a little more vunerable. I NEVER see fire coming from the wings, wing roots, it's always the fuselage. That makes me think it's not a fuel tank issue (otherwise each fuel tank could catch on fire, and none ever do but the fuselage)

Guppy35 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 06, 2007, 02:47:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Guppy: I've got a book that lists that Mossie as having flown through a plume of cascading (and burning) petrol after it shot down a LW bomber at night, rather than a V1 (which would have more shrapnel damage then burn damage, I'd think!)

Fire: Maybe the fire is that incendiary rounds are imbedding in the wooden frame and setting that on fire. Keep in mind that the reason the Hindenburg went down so lightning fast was probably the paint on the outside of the skin. Paint, glues, adhesives, all the chemicals put into building a mossie, are almost all flamable. Once flame gets going it can rupture fuel lines, melt protective coatings, whatever.

Might be that HTC made it light up because of this, and just decided the best way was to make the fuel takes a little more vunerable. I NEVER see fire coming from the wings, wing roots, it's always the fuselage. That makes me think it's not a fuel tank issue (otherwise each fuel tank could catch on fire, and none ever do but the fuselage)

The problem Krusty, is you never see any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise suggesting the Mossie burned like it does in AH. It wasn't considered a flying torch. Lots of accounts of Japanese birds doing that due to the lack of self sealing tanks, but the Mossie had those.

It lights up like a Zero. That doesn't seem to fit.

Souless · « **Reply #19 on:** June 06, 2007, 02:53:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Guppy: I've got a book that lists that Mossie as having flown through a plume of cascading (and burning) petrol after it shot down a LW bomber at night, rather than a V1 (which would have more shrapnel damage then burn damage, I'd think!)

Fire: Maybe the fire is that incendiary rounds are imbedding in the wooden frame and setting that on fire. Keep in mind that the reason the Hindenburg went down so lightning fast was probably the paint on the outside of the skin. Paint, glues, adhesives, all the chemicals put into building a mossie, are almost all flamable. Once flame gets going it can rupture fuel lines, melt protective coatings, whatever.

Might be that HTC made it light up because of this, and just decided the best way was to make the fuel takes a little more vunerable. I NEVER see fire coming from the wings, wing roots, it's always the fuselage. That makes me think it's not a fuel tank issue (otherwise each fuel tank could catch on fire, and none ever do but the fuselage)

krusty the mossie wasnt a burner, far from it and very durable.
May I suggest to read some good material on what glue was used and how it was asembled.
Fire from materials was greatly factored in from dehavilland engineers.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 06, 2007, 02:56:15 PM »

It was interesting to read how they had to change the glues for use in the Far East. It also turned out the different glues used kept the mosquitos (insects) away from the Mosquitos:)

Krusty · « **Reply #21 on:** June 06, 2007, 03:36:33 PM »

I agree it's too fragile, in more than one area. The entire thing needs to be scrapped and redone.

I guess I was just attempting to justify (after the fact) the way we have it. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't defending it!

P.S. funny thing about the mosquito scaring the mosquitos!

Furball · « **Reply #22 on:** June 06, 2007, 03:39:10 PM »

I remember setting a Mosquito alight by hitting in its wing (just outboard of the starboard engine) with a single ping from an F6F in a reversal shot.

Krusty · « **Reply #23 on:** June 06, 2007, 03:44:31 PM »

Was there an FB version that carried the cookie? I'd rather have a high-speed plane that has SOME sort of forward armament. Even if it's only the .303s!

Souless · « **Reply #24 on:** June 06, 2007, 03:53:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
The problem Krusty, is you never see any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise suggesting the Mossie burned like it does in AH. It wasn't considered a flying torch. Lots of accounts of Japanese birds doing that due to the lack of self sealing tanks, but the Mossie had those.

It lights up like a Zero. That doesn't seem to fit.

My personal opinion of this dan is its modelled like the bombers damage model.

Furball · « **Reply #25 on:** June 06, 2007, 04:06:32 PM »

Only the bulged bomb bay versions could carry the 4k cookie - they were all bomber versions.

There was no need for a FB version to carry the cookie.

Furball · « **Reply #26 on:** June 06, 2007, 04:07:35 PM »

BTW, i see Souless and SpikesX have taken up using my avatar. If anyone else wants to, feel free

MiloMorai · « **Reply #27 on:** June 06, 2007, 04:12:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Bruv119
Perk loadout option for the mossie tse tse. I would love to have 25 rounds of the 75mm cannon. !

Bruv is that a typo. The Molins gun was of 57mm calibre.

Mossie fuel tanks outlined in red,

Noir · « **Reply #28 on:** June 06, 2007, 04:43:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Hell yes! I'd pay perks to buy a single 4k cookie!

If only to drop on GVs!!!! MUAHAHAHAHHA! (Hey, my perks I'll spend 'em how I want!)

Imagine a HQ run with formations of mossies

Krusty · « **Reply #29 on:** June 06, 2007, 05:36:11 PM »

163 vs mossie = mossie dead, I don't care how fast it is, the rocket is faster!