Gun crazy Swiss

[storch]

Originally posted by john9001
iceland belong to russia, ask boroda.


"can someone answer this? is turkey part of europe or asia?'

yes.

[Curval]

Originally posted by Shuckins
You're wrong Curval.

Iceland is considered to be part of northwest Europe because of its relative proximity and its culture.

Just a reminder that the British Isles do not touch northwest Europe either but are also considered to be part of Europe.

Regards, Shuckins

Iceland, according to everything I have read may be CONSIDERED northwest Europe but it is not a member of the EU (European Union).  

http://www.eubusiness.com/Institutions/iceland-eu.87/

I do take your point about the British Isles...but Britain IS a member of the EU.

Using Stich's argument Austrailia, prior to it's Independence, was part of Europe, despite being on the continent of Austrailasia.

Likewise...Bermuda would be Europe too I suppose?

[Torque]

Originally posted by lazs2
torque... imagine if you had 12% black and 12% hispanic.   I don't know why you can't see.

I would gladly trade for your tiny little asian population and take the 2% black to go with it.  you have no idea.

Our white population commits very little crime... just like yours.   what are you going on about?

lazs

err...what are you babbling on about laz...is this all you have to do?

i never disputed your numbers, just your moorish attempt to compare apples to oranges.

the 2001 census is rather old, now we have close to 3% black, 4% S asian/black and 4% aboriginal....so roughly 11% of the population committing a disproportionate amount of homicides.

toronto is what...the fifth largest city in north america with 3 million people, the gang-bangers account for more than half of the 60-70 homicides the city has a year...do you get it now?

and since statscan doesn't categorize by race, it's moorish to compare.

asians?...you know most of that crime goes unreported because they're such a tight-knit community, maybe it is you that has no idea living in a tiny white-bread kali town.

i worked on and off for fives years in the states. everything from paying off the mob to work in ny city, to clubbing with the brothas in hartford ct. i'm somewhat familiar with how americana works and how it doesn't work, so save your 'you have no idea' speeches.

[Angus]

Hihi.
Let's clear this one up.
Iceland Geographically and mostly culturally belongs to Europe, althoug many Europeans consider us to be rather USA-affected.
But we are not members of the EU (Neither is Norway), so many of the EU regulations do not apply to us.
And we are a democracy, not a socialist country.
Greenland is the true border. They basically belong to America. But the culture is affected by the Danish.
With very much guns in rotation, as well as cultural problems, despite no gangs or cities, their murder (and gun murder) rate is rather hideously high...


And here:
" imagine if you had 12% black and 12% hispanic"

If yoy want to compare such stats to the USA, try Spain
Original Hispanic with lots of communication to Africa.
Or Portugal?

[lazs2]

torque.. if you think my town is 'whitebread' then you have no idea.

My brother is canadian and I have spent time there.   you are 85% white while we are less than 69% white.  

We do keep track of serious crime by race here.   blacks and hispanics are committing about 6 times the amount of crime that whites are.

the figures I can find still show that you have 2% black... while we have over 12% ours commit over half the murders.   I have seen no figures for "aboriginal"  are you taking about indians?  original owners of your country?

we have 25% black and hispanic while you have less than 3%   we have about the same for asian and American indians.

your 2% black would have to be the most murderous on the planet to even approach 52% of the killings.

lazs

[john9001]

"moorish attempt '?   vat ist moorish attempt, je no parlay canadianski.

[storch]

angus, with regard to your government, is iceland a democracy or a republic?

[storch]

Originally posted by Curval
Iceland, according to everything I have read may be CONSIDERED northwest Europe but it is not a member of the EU (European Union).  

http://www.eubusiness.com/Institutions/iceland-eu.87/

I do take your point about the British Isles...but Britain IS a member of the EU.

Using Stich's argument Austrailia, prior to it's Independence, was part of Europe, despite being on the continent of Austrailasia.

Likewise...Bermuda would be Europe too I suppose?

ok curval, what about the canary islands, the azores, the balearics and other islands in the mediterranian are those not european as well?  I do believe bermuda is part of europe are you not english subjects?

[Curval]

Look Stich...you're right.  You win this mighty intardet fight.  Everywhere that isn't the great and wonderful US of A is Europe and anyone who doesn't agree with you is a Euro who is simply jealous of you and your country.

[storch]

 sheesh don't blow a gasket.  since you said I was an ignorant uneducated dumbell I thought I would ask someone of your evident brilliance to enlighten me but if you want to hide under a bushel basket well.....

[Angus]

Well, european or not, part of what we know as the western world.
However it does not change the fact that if you INCLUDE those corners into the EU statistics and compare the whole pool with the USA, the results are even more marked.
Iceland's crime rate is under EU. etc......

[storch]

of course they are angus.  you have 300,000 or so people, less than 20% are foreign born and all but 700 of those are from europe.  your population is homogenous right down to their worship.  85% of icelanders belong to the national church of iceland.

in contrast my neighborhood has about 300,000 citizens 80% of which, including myself are foreign born.

it is as lazs states.  you have no idea at all what it is like to live in such a multiethnic and thereby multicultural environment.

there should be no crime at all in iceland.  societal pressure should be sufficient to keep everyone in line.

[Angus]

"85% of icelanders belong to the national church of iceland."
You sort of get born into that thing

Anyway, the melting-pot doesn't have to mean everybody starts killing each other. Look at the UK or France. Look at London....
Why does the whole stats of the USA have to be in the more serious criminal categories worse than London?

Oh, and by the way, one of the last murders up here (autumn 2005) happened in the US airbase between two white Americans.
Odd.

[Jackal1]

Angus, to start with we are speaking of our rights here in the U.S.
As also has been explained to you, over and over, you cannot possibly compare apples and oranges, which is what you are trying to do. It simply can`t be done.
Iceland compares with....well nothing on the face of this planet except Iceland. Not a put down, just fact.
You certainly can`t compare the U.K. or London with the U.S. Way, way different cultures and lifestyles in general. The world is slowly catching up to these areas in terms of what we are speaking about. Crime in general will increase in these areas as this happens. It`s a given. They are insuring that by creating the market with gun bans. Like sugar to an ant.
France...................hehe ......not even going there on this board.
On a side note, I`m not sure how much weight I would put in statistics coming from and possibly manipulated by the government of a country in which it highly restricted and banned handguns, etc. There is not but one reason for that. The government fears it`s citizens. The cause for that is clear as long as reasoning for the individual has not been banned.

[McFarland]

Too late, it has already been done. Why do you think Angus only beleives the junk his govment feeds him?
Item - Agenda status
Guns - banned
Freedom of Speech - almost
Reasoning - just aboot complete
All rights and Liberties - getting there fast