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Offline Guppy35

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« on: June 13, 2007, 01:56:15 AM »
A restored Mig-3 took flight for the first time in 60 years.

http://www.fighterfactory.com/airworthy-aircraft/mig-3-fighter-aircraft.php
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2007, 02:21:37 AM »
where is it located so i can burn that commie bird lol:p
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2007, 03:25:13 AM »
Cool

Now that would be a great addition to the AHII plane family ;)
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2007, 03:39:34 AM »
Pretty neat!Wonder why they had to substitute an Allison engine for the original.Wasnt the engine in the Mig-3 the same as the IL2?I thought that was one of the main reason the MIG got canceled.Because they needed the engines for the IL2 more than they needed the MIG.The point im gettin at is you would think there would be some engines layin around stillThanks for postin that Corky!

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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2007, 07:24:26 AM »
Thats like the local museum here in Fargo ND.

Some guy goes to the trouble to find the original plans for a A6m type fighter.
Builds the plane from scratch, does an awesome job on it. I mean it looks CHERRY! Till you notice that the motor has a Pratt & Whitney label on it.

OUCH! Why would  you do that?
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2007, 08:43:46 AM »
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Pretty neat!Wonder why they had to substitute an Allison engine for the original.Wasnt the engine in the Mig-3 the same as the IL2?I thought that was one of the main reason the MIG got canceled.Because they needed the engines for the IL2 more than they needed the MIG.The point im gettin at is you would think there would be some engines layin around stillThanks for postin that Corky!

Pipz


Knowing the Fighterfactory, there has to be a good reason.  If it could have been used and/or feasible to use, I think they would have.
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2007, 09:08:00 AM »
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Thats like the local museum here in Fargo ND.

Some guy goes to the trouble to find the original plans for a A6m type fighter.
Builds the plane from scratch, does an awesome job on it. I mean it looks CHERRY! Till you notice that the motor has a Pratt & Whitney label on it.

OUCH! Why would  you do that?
because a pratt and whitney is better than no engine at all.   there are no mitsubishi MK-8 or nakajima NK-1 engines available.
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2007, 09:43:28 AM »
Probably because they want to fly it. P&W parts are relatively easy to come by so repairs are possible.

Parts for an original engine are probably simply not available.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2007, 09:53:04 AM »
I cant help but notice that the pilot couldnt close the canopy if he wanted to. His head has to be 3-4 inches above the cockpit framing....Guess the it was the MIdGet-3:)
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2007, 01:35:44 PM »
Very nice.

I'd love to see the Soviet planeset fleshed out, but I think we need something like the Pe-2 first.

More Eastern Front scenarios would be great.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2007, 03:29:11 PM »
Use the V-1710 b/c if I remember correctly, the engine life was between 25 and 50 hours for the Soviet engine.
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2007, 03:42:30 PM »
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Use the V-1710 b/c if I remember correctly, the engine life was between 25 and 50 hours for the Soviet engine.


ahhhh that could be a good reason

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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2007, 05:21:39 PM »
The Klimov and the Allison are very similar in design, size and power, so it’s a natural substitute. Here’s another Soviet beauty restored (not a new built, but an actual restored Yak):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkPHYkyM1oA

The Kiwi commentators are quite funny as well (“Ohh… that sound! Who needs Viagra!” – “The Yak is down … landed I mean”) *lol*. :)
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2007, 06:44:45 PM »
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The Klimov and the Allison are very similar in design, size and power, so it’s a natural substitute. Here’s another Soviet beauty restored (not a new built, but an actual restored Yak):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkPHYkyM1oA

The Kiwi commentators are quite funny as well (“Ohh… that sound! Who needs Viagra!” – “The Yak is down … landed I mean”) *lol*. :)
they are so close in all respects that the allison bolts up into the engine mounts of klimov powered aircraft with very little modification.  the brilliant russians had once again come up with the same solutions as the west.  we felt compelled to copy their designs.  take into account the following three examples.  we copy their design for a heavy bomber by reverse engineering the Tu-4 and we had the gall to claim it was boeing design.  after that rolls royce copies the excellent russian designed RD-45 turbojet delivering 5000lbs of thrust and call it the rolls royce nene.  later on the anglo french tards copied the Tu-144 in very similar fashion.  no wonder the russians hated the west.  it's a good thing we copied their atomic weapons though.
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2007, 06:58:14 PM »
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Thats like the local museum here in Fargo ND.

Some guy goes to the trouble to find the original plans for a A6m type fighter.
Builds the plane from scratch, does an awesome job on it. I mean it looks CHERRY! Till you notice that the motor has a Pratt & Whitney label on it.

OUCH! Why would  you do that?


Because apparently the real Sakae 21 had the logo on it.
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