Conservative Talk Radio....

[Gunthr]

MT, i wondered about the success of conservative talk radio - esp considering that most of the country is supposed to hate Bush.  i wondered why liberal talk radio wouldn't flourish in this environment.  

i make a point of listening to liberal/progressive talk to get the other point of view.  i can't take too much tho.  

 the shrill, hyper-sarcastic negativity of these radio shows does one of two things if i listen too long - i get a headache or acid stomach.  i think this is the real reason liberal talk is not generally successful.  even the ones that have humor eventually cause this effect.

anyway, i have a simple alternative to the unfair Fairness Doctrine:  turn the dial

[Sabre]

Originally posted by midnight Target
I think the fairness doctrine worked well. It is unfortunate but true that certain things need to be regulated. I'm sure you don't want air traffic control handled through market pressures alone.

Ideas should NEVER be regulated.  As noted, who gets to decide what is "balanced?"  Is anyone doing so for the network TV or cable news outlets? For printed media?  Study after study has shown that TV and print media are overwhelmingly left-leaning in their bias.  I would no more want them regulated for "fairness" than radio.  Ever heard of Pravda?

[RedTop]

Originally posted by rpm
Or it could be that "conservatives" like to listen to the sound of their own voice whining about everything under the sun being the fault of anyone but themselves while "liberals" like to listen to music.

There's a reason all that whiny tinfoil hat crap is on AM.

Liberal talk radio is just a whiney.....and blame the cons for everything.

[Gunthr]

Maybe liberals prefer to think for themselves instead of having a radio celebrity tell them what to think. - myelo

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respectfully myelo, this is exactly the kind of arrogant contempt for people that i believe explains the poor acceptance  of liberal talk radio.

[crockett]

Originally posted by RedTop
Target...

 

I agree....mostly.

 

Thats correct...and the people like what clear channel is offering..thats why they listen and support thier sponsors.

 

It's not.....Its a free market. Air America and other "Progressive Talk Radio Stations" can't get sponsors to get into mainstream. It's not the Conservatives fault that most people would rather listen to them. Its not the conservatives fault that Business men understand what works.

I listen to Conservative talk radio everyday when I am out and about. At least some. At night when I am headed home from work , the station I listen to mainly goes away. So , for the last 20 minutes or so of my ride home I listen to "Progressive talk radio" to hear the "other" side. John elliot is who is on now. The calls and the over all format doesn't have the same feel as the conservative shows I listen to.

It seems to me...and this is JUST my opinion....that they HATE conservatives and have nothing but contempt for anything republican or related to Bush. ANd its more vitriolic in thier speech than in Conservative.

IMHO

It's not about they can't get sponsors.. It's about clear channel having a monopoly. It's simple business if you operate more stations you can do things cheaper and offer more for less.

If you were going to advertise your product on the air and it wasn't really targeted to any specific group. Let's say for instance a bar of soap.

Would you..

A) want to deal with all kinds of small radio stations all over the country and have to deal with each one separately.

or

B) deal with 1 corpration whom can offer your advertisment across the nation.

I'm not a big fan of this kind of stuff, meaning telling a company they have to produce a certain product. However if the company has built it's self into a monopoly then it's a different story.

[RedTop]

Originally posted by crockett
It's not about they can't get sponsors.. It's about clear channel having a monopoly. It's simple business if you operate more stations you can do things cheaper and offer more for less.

If you were going to advertise your product on the air and it wasn't really targeted to any specific group. Let's say for instance a bar of soap.

Would you..

A) want to deal with all kinds of small radio stations all over the country and have to deal with each one separately.

or

B) deal with 1 corpration whom can offer your advertisment across the nation.

I'm not a big fan of this kind of stuff, meaning telling a company they have to produce a certain product. However if the company has built it's self into a monopoly then it's a different story.

Well of course the answer would be B.

I don't believe its a monopoly. Its the way the FREE market went.

As I stated earlier...I listen to "Progressive" talk radio on the way home. It's not funny...its not catchy....It's half *** put together it sounds like and the callers that I hear MOST of the time are friggi looney tunes. You can almost see their Tin Foil hats on while they are talking.

Everything is a conspiracy. Its the "Bush Cartel". It's the "Bush Crime Family" It's the republican War Mongers....thats all you hear from these people on those stations.

As was mentioned earlier in this thread....Conservative radio speaks to the MIDDLE more than the "Right Wing". I hear Conservative talk radio landblasting Repulicans on thier stances on several issues. I don't hear that on the other type.

Listening to John Elliot last night on the way home ranting about what a great time he had at that LIB fest a few days ago and how it was so inspriring that 3000 liberals were thier. How is favorite congrewomen are Woolsy and Maxine Waters....2 lefties....How John podesta is so great. It was laughable to listen to.

The democrats were voted in last time because the MIDDLE of the ROAD people of the country were tired of the status quo. Liberal politicians talked more moderate until they got elected...now thier nutty.

Radio is not being monopolized by conservative....its that Conservative talk radio talks to the middle of the road people....where liberal talk radio talk to people like ROSIE.

[bj229r]

Originally posted by crockett
It's not about they can't get sponsors.. It's about clear channel having a monopoly. It's simple business if you operate more stations you can do things cheaper and offer more for less. .....

If NO ONE listens to your station(s) then sponsors won't flock to you. If Al Franken had ratings like Rush, Clear Channel would have him on 3 hours every day. They aren't a right-wing buncha nut jobs. They are a money-making corporation--if a couple of trained monkeys throwing feces against the window could win the afternoon drive, they would sign them up.  As I said before, most liberals seem quite flummoxed by the business world and the law of supply and demand...probably because in the real world, there are winners and losers, and they've been taught throughout their public school career that EVERYone is a winner

(In the loser category: Al Franken, Randi Rhoades, Jim Hightower, Mario Cuomo---I've listened to them all, and as stated earlier, the endless droning negativity is a turnoff--you don't hear that on most conservative shows, they are (mostly) upbeat in their view of the USA)

[Toad]

This  just in:

New Gallup data show confidence in Congress at all time low
Just 14% of Americans have a great deal or quite a lot of confidence in Congress.  

This 14% Congressional confidence rating is the all-time low for this measure, which Gallup initiated in 1973.  The previous low point for Congress was 18% at several points in the period of time 1991 to 1994.

That's ~ 10 points lower than Bush which is pretty amazing.

Maybe the Liberals and the Democrats just don't resonate with the common people they way they tell themselves they do.

That might explain why liberal radio has so few listeners.

Just a thought.

[lazs2]

LOL... this is the silliest thing I have seen from the liberals in a while...

The contention being that radio is the only way anyone gets their news and that it is a monopoly of the right because of clever market manipulation and that there is some huge lefty ground swell of people who would listen to the lefty side if they only had the opportunity?

This is insulting on so many levels.   Why does talk radio even have an audience?  It is crap to listen to so far as following the thread.... more commercials than just about any other media... no one likes commercials.

Why is it growing while other slick and entertaining forms like tv news and newspapers are dying?  

Because for the majority... the left wing message of tv news and newspapers and hollywood is not what they want to hear... they will put up with any amount of amature nite and commercials to hear their point of view voiced.

Anyone who doesn't like conservative talk radio can listen to NPR.. they don't...even tho NPR has no commercials which, in my opinion, makes them far more attractive in that respect.

The problem is that lefty stations take for granted that certain lefty ideals are everyones ideals and that they can build from that.   they are wrong and people are sick of it.    

People listen to crappy commercial ridden conservative talk radio becuause the message resonates with them.

And that is why the left wants it censored and driven off the air.

It is marginal to listen to it now with all the commercials... it would be impossible to listen to if the remaining bit of talk was cut in half and we were forced to listen to some lefty or lefty view that we were tuning out of regular media because of.

And the lefties know it... they know why talk radio is popular and they know the only defense is to destroy it.

lazs

[AKIron]

Sooner probably more than later wi-fi will be omnipresent and car radios could become obsolete. Music/News/Talk will stream into your car from the net. Controlling content on the net might be too big a job for even the likes of Hillary.

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by RedTop
Well of course the answer would be B.

I don't believe its a monopoly. Its the way the FREE market went.

As I stated earlier...I listen to "Progressive" talk radio on the way home. It's not funny...its not catchy....It's half *** put together it sounds like and the callers that I hear MOST of the time are friggi looney tunes. You can almost see their Tin Foil hats on while they are talking.

Everything is a conspiracy. Its the "Bush Cartel". It's the "Bush Crime Family" It's the republican War Mongers....thats all you hear from these people on those stations.

As was mentioned earlier in this thread....Conservative radio speaks to the MIDDLE more than the "Right Wing". I hear Conservative talk radio landblasting Repulicans on thier stances on several issues. I don't hear that on the other type.

Listening to John Elliot last night on the way home ranting about what a great time he had at that LIB fest a few days ago and how it was so inspriring that 3000 liberals were thier. How is favorite congrewomen are Woolsy and Maxine Waters....2 lefties....How John podesta is so great. It was laughable to listen to.

The democrats were voted in last time because the MIDDLE of the ROAD people of the country were tired of the status quo. Liberal politicians talked more moderate until they got elected...now thier nutty.

Radio is not being monopolized by conservative....its that Conservative talk radio talks to the middle of the road people....where liberal talk radio talk to people like ROSIE.

Landblasting => Lambasting

[P47Gra]

Originally posted by Stang
This has really been bothering me lately.  Let the free market decide what's on radio.  If you want it, you'll get it.  If no one really wants it, you don't.

I totally agree with you Stang.  What we have here is an assalt on our right of free speech.  No matter if you are a Lib or a Con we have a freaken right to speak out no matter what.  I will fight for our speech no matter what.  The government can take land (happening) and guns (will happen) but they will have a fight if they take our speech rights from us.  

One MAD Jugman

[bj229r]

Talk radio is becoming as big an issue as immigration --several stories now in main stream media:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070623/NATION/106230056/1001
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/2042.html
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200706/NAT20070622a.html

Though the detractors never say they are lying, they still seem to feel the need to silence tham

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by bj229r
Talk radio is becoming as big an issue as immigration --several stories now in main stream media:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070623/NATION/106230056/1001
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/2042.html
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200706/NAT20070622a.html

Though the detractors never say they are lying, they still seem to feel the need to silence tham

1. Which of those do you consider to be "main stream"?

2. The Washington times article is about immigration, not the fairness doctrine.

[bj229r]

best i could do on short notice, i'll do longer google thing later on whilst my jug grabs

Her's a couple

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Immigration-Talk-Radio.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/19/AR2007061902341.html