Originally posted by Squire The usual hyper-tech babbling we get from modern fighter "debates". First off, none of you know the capabilities of the a/c involved because they are all highly classified (F-22, Eurofighter, Su-30), so I find it hard to accept how you would know X beats Y unless your real life job is something to do with having that kind of intel.
Originally posted by Viking He's not talking about radar cross section, but visibile size ... as in eyeball mk. I.
Originally posted by eagl Ahem.
Originally posted by LePaul LOL, I was so hoping you'd respond to that comment!No wait, you're biased because you LIKE the F-15. Yea. Yea, that's the ticket.
Originally posted by indy007 Mmm, not sure if this Colonel is correct. Size does not dictate radar cross section, shape does. If you took an F-117, and doubled its size while maintaining the same shape, the radar cross section will be the same.Hell, you can design a submarine that won't return active sonar pings, and an aircraft carrier with an RCS the size of a dinghy if you wanted to. That's at least according to the former head of Skunkworks Ben Rich. I'd think him & his mathematicians know what they're talking about.
Colonel Everest E. Riccioni has had an extraordinarily illustrious career. After he began flight training for the United States Army in 1943, he learned to be a test pilot at the knee of Chuck Yeager; was a flight test engineer and experimental test flight pilot instructor in the experimental test pilot school; and taught the most advanced engineering course at the Air Force Academy. He then went on to command both prototype and flight mechanics divisions of the Flight Dynamics Lab at Wright-Patterson and pioneered the first supersonic cruise fighter design conference in history. Riccioni was one of the three legendary "Fighter Mafia" mavericks who forced the Pentagon to produce the F-16 to improve the military's air superiority and completed several stints as a fighter pilot flying 55 different types of military aircraft throughout his career. After retiring from the Air Force in 1976, he worked for Northrop Corporation for 17 years managing aircraft programs, including managing operational studies on the B-2 bomber. Most recently, until his 1997 retirement, Colonel Riccioni consulted with the GAO, the United States Navy, and the Air Force.
Originally posted by Viking They do. They've got 7 E-3's, France got 4, NATO got another 17 stationed in Germany. USAF got 32. So 32 AWACS are controlling the skies over North America and other US territories, while 28 AWACS are controlling the skies of Europe (not counting the Russian AWACS aircraft).Other nations with AWACS aircraft include: Russia, China, India, Israel, Saudi-Arabia, Australia, Turkey, South-Korea, Pakistan, Sweden, and Singapore. I may have forgot some.In addition the US Navy, Royal Navy and French Navy have a number of AWACS aircraft for carrier use.A simple google would have alleviated your ignorance.
Originally posted by Bronk Mehh.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Q6Vb9xJM0Bronk
