Russkies own North Pole

[Ripsnort]

As you can see, Putin is too late to lay claim to the North Pole.

[McFarland]

Well, since Canada and Russia are connected by this ridge, I say that the claims are gone. And since the ridge is under water, how can Russia claim it anyways? And yes, the US won the cold war.

[Makarov9]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
As you can see, Putin is too late to lay claim to the North Pole.

I still don't understand why they are not flying off into space?

[DoctorYO]

Wasn't this script already taken by loony tunes skit:

Duck Rogers in the 24th and 1/2 century...

whats next ... just add water Russian embassy to sprout up..




DoctorYo

[Nilsen]

The North Pole should never be used for anything other than research, expeditions and the odd tourist.

[Yeager]

The North Pole should never be used for anything other than research, expeditions and the odd tourist.
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If there is more oil there than in SA you can forget that notion.  Wars will be fought over it.  Silly human race.  Kudos to the commies for having the balls to try and claim it.  Cant really stop em if they are serious about it, bein a nukular power and all that......

[RAIDER14]

North Pole should be Internationally owned and operated by all nations similar to the ISS

[Makarov9]

At least we know the U.N. will step in and make things right.

[Xargos]

Well I say Nuke the North Pole and put an end to the Russians claim and the debate on global warming.

[Vad]

Originally posted by Xargos
Well I say Nuke the North Pole and put an end to the Russians claim and the debate on global warming.

Don't touch our land! And our oceans too

[Xargos]

[bustr]

If this were a move in the game of Risk the timing is wonderful. The US has tied itself up in Iraq and is using up men and resources there along with the perception that the American people no longer support the effort.

 China is moving its influence into Africa to aquire it's vast natural resources while holding the majority of financial note in the world from loans to the US. The US cannot afford to not do business with China because many of our corporations have allowed their technology to be stolen and produced cheaper in China or have opted out entirly from the U.S. and moved production to China.

This is a good move on Russias part to get something going in the face of China's economic expansion. China needs raw material and fuel. The US and EU needs fuel. If Russia pulls this off, I won't be happy from the U.S. perspective. But I will be rooting for them every time environmentalists get shown the business end of a Kalishnikof. I have always appreciated Russian pragmatism when it comes to survival at all levels. Environmentalists don't seem to get the opportunity in Russia to radish whip the entire population. In that respect the U.S. could learn a few things about national survival from the big bad bear.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by indy007
Well Boroda.... how aboot a beer ay?

I am having one right now, with smoked cheese.

Since I was a little boy - I wondered who drew that line that includes North Pole.  We own all the islands that are over 80 degrees in our sector. In my 1954 atlas the border goes from the coast at 32 degrees East through the North Pole to 168 degrees West, moving East from Svalbard and then - back to 32 meridian.

I have read some more about the topic, and again, we are the only country capable of researching in that area, so if Russian scientists say that Russian continental shelf extends to the North Pole - then noone is able to beat it. Maybe someone had to spend some money on nuclear ice-breakers instead of aircraft carriers?...   If you don't know how to build icebreakers yourself - then you can pay Finns, they have built some for USSR back in the 80s.

BTW, did anyone here read Frank Herbert's (author of "Dune") first novel? It was named "Dragon in the Sea" or "XXI Century Sub". It was written in late-50s, and only 40 years later they really discovered oil on Novaya Zemlya con-shef

To Nielsen: You guys already got all the fish, so now we get the oil, agreed?

Now seriously: I don't see any way to get the oil that lays below the ocean bottom under the permanent ice that drifts for millions of years. Herbert's idea of drilling under water and using inflatable tankers with nuclear tow-subs is still sci-fi.

[68ROX]

Sorry, My Russian friends...

The seals, lobsters, and polar bears all voted...

They chose to be in international waters...

(Because they thought they were all along.)

And, since there is no '"land" to be claimed, how can any country lay claim to a constantly moving chunk of ice?

They also want to know what you are all aledgedly doing with all that space allocated to Russia at the SOUTH Pole, not alot of "Stalingrad Fried Chicken" franchises popping up on that real estate.


68ROX

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by indy007
Well not quite. That's exactly what they're challenging. They did it 5 years ago, but now they say they have a more compelling claim. It has to do with seabed composition and how it links with the arctic. It's a big can of worms. I can save you the trouble... it's all about money. There's enough oil & diamonds up there to make it worth squabbling over.

Oil, maybe.   Diamonds, no.   The formations under the North Pole are not "Kimberlite" or "lamproite volcanic pipe" in origin.  

But regardless, Putin is fast showing the world what an idiot he is.   At this point, I'd call Bush smarter, by a hair.