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Offline Tiger

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« Reply #120 on: October 02, 2007, 11:44:15 AM »
According to the stats, the Chute appears to be the best fighter.

Those Japanese make some good fighter planes, they blow up easy, but just don't let the enemy behind you and you don't have to worry about that.  And you better shoot them while you have the chance, because chances are anything else in the air can out run you.

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« Reply #121 on: October 02, 2007, 01:22:41 PM »
Hardly, Motor.

The F4U's rate of roll is superior at all speeds. She'll also out-turn the Tempest, once again at all speeds. She has better flaps and a far more effective rudder (any Hog driver worth his stick has a good set of pedals and knows how to use them. That rudder is a difference maker, and retains authority at speeds WELL above where the rudder on most opponents becomes ineffective). In instantaneous and sustained maneuvering the F4U is superior.

And as for the guns on the Spit, I'll take the consistent firepower of 6x.50s over a mixed bag of cannon and machine guns any day.
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« Reply #122 on: October 02, 2007, 01:38:28 PM »
Tempest is the faster a/c both in MIL and WEP below 15k, has a better climb rate below 5k at WEP, and 15K at MIL, better acceleration, and has the smaller turn radius at high speed (no flaps), and has much better firepower.

Both are VERY good fighters, but they are comparable.  I fly them both and like them for different reasons.
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« Reply #123 on: October 02, 2007, 02:30:20 PM »
All the eny 5 planes are great (comes down to personal preference).

I will say this however - the most underrated fighter (in terms of ENY) is the FW190-D. :aok

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« Reply #124 on: October 02, 2007, 05:54:12 PM »
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That lil plane can surprise alot of players, especially Zero pilots who are relying too much on their turning ability:
 "Enemy on my six? No problem I will just outturn him... WTF? He's still there? pingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingBOOM

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« Reply #125 on: October 02, 2007, 07:12:48 PM »
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Redman seems to think that only BnZ is hard.  Well, other than the FM2.  Apparently the FM2 is hard for some reason, but, IIRC, he has claimed the A6M2 is easymode.



number 1 i dont BNZ  i will strait up same lvl dogfight in P-47 and FM-2
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« Reply #126 on: October 02, 2007, 07:15:03 PM »
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Hurri is deffinetly one of em
and i agree with your list EXCEPT for the Fm-2
FM2 is slow and shoot rubber bullets but boy, use it right and it can outturn almost anything

My primarys are
f4u (usually 1c)
p47d-25
bf109f-4
and my favorite of all
the p38 :]


accually i havent been doin half bad in that FM-2, like u said u can outurn alot, and if u can get those 4 50cals in the right spot, u can easily take off a P-47 Wing
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« Reply #127 on: October 02, 2007, 08:29:07 PM »
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Tempest is the faster a/c both in MIL and WEP below 15k, has a better climb rate below 5k at WEP, and 15K at MIL, better acceleration, and has the smaller turn radius at high speed (no flaps), and has much better firepower.

Both are VERY good fighters, but they are comparable.  I fly them both and like them for different reasons.


I agree that both are very good fighters. However, 1v1, the F4U-4 will steal the Tempest's candy every time. In your standard DA merge scenario, the last time the Tempest driver will see the F4U-4 through his windscreen will be on the initial merge. After that it'll be behind his 3-9 line.

Off of the initial merge, the F4U-4 can get turned around much faster. The F4U-4's ability to deliberately scrub off E is amazing. Doing so gives you angles very quickly.

Now, I know that Gonzo's page shows that the Tempest has a smaller turn radius when neither uses flaps. However, what it doesn't show is that this occurs at 170 mph. At this speed, just 2 notches of flaps puts the F4U-4 easily inside the Tempest's turn. Worse, the Tempest has rather miserable roll control at low speeds, while the F4U-4 is still rather good. Lets face it, if you're turning circles at 170 mph, the F4U will have flaps out and the Tempest will be as dead as the 2007 Mets.

While the Tempest has better acceleration (the F4U-4 is mighty stout too), it is not enough to escape before getting clobbered. Of course, this acceleration advantage disappears above 7,000 feet, and the F4U-4 widens the gap as you go up. Low level speed also goes to the Tempest. But, like acceleration, reach 7k and its even. At 10k, the F4U-4 is faster. At the Tempest's best altitude (17k), it's only 3 mph faster than the -4 (433 vs 430). Above that, the Tempest gradually loses performance, while the F4U-4 only gets stronger. Eventually, the -4 tops out at 453 mph @ 26,200 feet.

So, while the Tempest is a terrific fighter, it does have two natural enemies that are both more capable dogfighters.. The La-7 and the F4U-4.

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« Reply #128 on: October 02, 2007, 08:59:26 PM »
for furballs B-17 hands down, get a squaddiew to gun for you, and it is a mean sob!

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« Reply #129 on: October 02, 2007, 09:08:23 PM »
ha ha ack ack, yep the p-38 in cartoon land. The combat flight simulator works well in HTCII. It's just a game, and there is no reallity here.

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« Reply #130 on: October 02, 2007, 09:19:56 PM »
The spit IX because it comes in pinK:D
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« Reply #131 on: October 02, 2007, 09:21:41 PM »
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ha ha ack ack, yep the p-38 in cartoon land. The combat flight simulator works well in HTCII. It's just a game, and there is no reallity here.



You should try posting sober, you might actually make some sense.


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« Reply #132 on: October 02, 2007, 09:30:40 PM »
according to the military channel the P51 was the most feared plane of WWII :D
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« Reply #133 on: October 02, 2007, 09:56:33 PM »
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« Reply #134 on: October 02, 2007, 10:37:39 PM »
109f4 is best