Author Topic: forget gun control... (Read 2403 times)

AKIron · « **Reply #60 on:** July 03, 2007, 09:55:13 PM »

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Originally posted by McFarland
But they have been known to kill people as well. So it's 50/50 there, whether wearing one is safe or not. Depends on the crash.

No, they have a much better record than 50/50. Please don't make me dig into government databases.

McFarland · « **Reply #61 on:** July 04, 2007, 12:09:25 AM »

The record is better than 50/50. But the probability is 50/50.

VOR · « **Reply #62 on:** July 04, 2007, 12:25:14 AM »

That's illogical.

Sandman · « **Reply #63 on:** July 04, 2007, 02:14:44 AM »

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Originally posted by VOR
That's illogical.

Ditto.

MORAY37 · « **Reply #64 on:** July 04, 2007, 04:23:17 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
yep... most of the people who are telling us that it is a small inconvienece and worth it and all that have never rode without a helmet for any length of time to compare.

I think that most of the people who like seatbelt and helmet laws are people who can't drive worth a damn... they need to wear seatbelts and helmets and...

lazs

For the record... it is exactly that reason (above) That i ride with a helmet on my american made steel, wear a life preserver while I'm running 25 miles offshore, and wear a seatbelt on I95 at 75 miles per hour. It's not me I'm worried about...it's the jackoff in the next vehicle who is reading the paper, getting a bj and sipping a cup of coffee on the way to work.

Maverick · « **Reply #65 on:** July 04, 2007, 09:46:45 AM »

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Originally posted by McFarland
The record is better than 50/50. But the probability is 50/50.

What is your source.

FBBone · « **Reply #66 on:** July 04, 2007, 12:39:49 PM »

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Originally posted by MORAY37
..it's the jackoff in the next vehicle who is reading the paper, getting a bj and sipping a cup of coffee on the way to work.

Wow, I'd like to BE that guy!!!:D

McFarland · « **Reply #67 on:** July 04, 2007, 03:46:06 PM »

Me own thoughts are me source. There's a 50/50 chance of getting hit in the front/rear and getting hit in the side. In a side impact, the seatbelt will hold you to the blow, thus giving you less chance of surviving. However, in a front/rear impact, it will hold you away from the blow, thus helping you. But for side impacts, seatbelts are no good.

VOR · « **Reply #68 on:** July 04, 2007, 04:12:44 PM »

Well, that can be your little secret.

Maverick · « **Reply #69 on:** July 04, 2007, 07:01:27 PM »

That confirmed what I figured. Absolute empirical subjectivity with preconceived notion.

McFarland · « **Reply #70 on:** July 04, 2007, 09:49:24 PM »

Well, if you could think for yourself instead of what the govment and insurance companies spoon fed you, you would find that what I said is true. Me cousin was killed by his seatbelt, I know what I'm talking aboot.

Maverick · « **Reply #71 on:** July 04, 2007, 10:23:35 PM »

McFarland,

I investigated collisions for a living, In other words I was a professional in the area.

McFarland · « **Reply #72 on:** July 04, 2007, 11:02:18 PM »

Professional or not, I can see with me own eyes that a seltbelt will hold you to a side impact, thus increasing your chance of injury. Tell me cousin that it won't. I know what he would say. Some professional if you can't see that what I'm saying is true.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #73 on:** July 04, 2007, 11:13:31 PM »

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Originally posted by McFarland
Me own thoughts are me source. There's a 50/50 chance of getting hit in the front/rear and getting hit in the side. In a side impact, the seatbelt will hold you to the blow, thus giving you less chance of surviving. However, in a front/rear impact, it will hold you away from the blow, thus helping you. But for side impacts, seatbelts are no good.

Complete bull****. Ask me how I know.

The seatbelt saved my life, no doubt whatsoever. Side impact, my door was hit ajar from the impact and my seatbelt kept me in the car rather than becoming a human flesh streak on the highway. And if you think wearing seatbelts is ONLY for saving lives you shouldn't be posting here. There's a reason beyond safety that racecar drivers wear their restraints as tight as possible: feel for the vehicle. I can't stand loose seatbelts, I want to feel what the car is doing as it's doing it.

McFarland · « **Reply #74 on:** July 04, 2007, 11:54:14 PM »

I know what I saw. Me cousin was killed by his seatbelt holding him to the impact of that tree. I'll explain to you how it happened:

It was supposed to be a race, but it may have turned into a fight. Whether it did, we will never know. But we know he was murdered. He neared the finish line, and crossed it before the other guy. The other guy, he doesn't like this. So he pushes the back end of me cousin's car, twice. My cousin spun around on the road more than 180 degrees, his back wheels go into the ditch. The front wheels get traction again, spinning the car around. It goes off the other side of the road sideways, and jumps a ditch four feet deep. The wheels catch the rim of the ditch, though, and proceed to start his car into a flip, but first he hits a tree in his driver's side door, his seatbelt catches, holding him to the blow. He wipes out the tree, and proceeds to flip, end over end now, five times, ending up with his front facing the the road, his car turned 180 degrees since it hit the ditch, and on it's wheels. If me cousin had not been wearing a seatbelt, he would have survived. You can't say seatbelts are completely safe.