Author Topic: What are some common ways to help with a bad net stat? (Read 621 times)

Beltfed5 · « **on:** July 08, 2007, 04:51:29 PM »

I have DSL but my variance in delay is looking like a mountain range. I'm running Vista as well on a new AMD 4000+ x2. Just curious if there is anything I can so, I am really warpy ATM.

Thanks!

Skuzzy · « **Reply #1 on:** July 09, 2007, 09:40:56 AM »

The variance shifts like that have to do with your CPU going off and having to do other thiings. Vista has a very high number of background processes and threads it runs, and this takes a lot more CPU power than XP took to maintain the same level of playability.

If you are running the Aero desktop, shut it down. That will make a pretty good difference as that not only frees up CPU, but it also frees up RAM.

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #2 on:** July 09, 2007, 10:47:27 AM »

It seems that the reworked network stack has introduced some yet unsolved general problems in Vista networking. I'm seeing a lot of reports of hanging downloads, slow network speeds and other anomalies related to Vista.

Beltfed5 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 09, 2007, 12:05:48 PM »

Yeah, there certainly is a crapload of background processes running on my system, I'll try disabling some of them. Thanks.

Fulmar · « **Reply #4 on:** July 09, 2007, 12:08:08 PM »

So pretty much Vista is like running 25 copies of Bonzi Buddy at once, right?

Skuzzy · « **Reply #5 on:** July 09, 2007, 12:51:33 PM »

Just in threads alone. XP Pro had about 220 in a normally cleaned up system. I managed to get Vista down to around 430 threads.

On XP Pro, it was pretty trivial to it down to about 19 processes. On Vista Ultimate I managed to get them down to 38.

My guess is OEM's such as HP/Compaq have around 80 processes running as default in Vista.

Krusty · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2007, 12:57:07 PM »

A DELL OEM my sister bought had about 70+ processes as default. Even trimming heavily I still couldn't get much below the mid-40s.

We ended up wiping it and installing XP.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #7 on:** July 09, 2007, 01:23:33 PM »

Dell usually comes in a bit lower on process count than HP/Compaq.

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2007, 05:47:19 PM »

I was fighting with a HP Vista laptop just today. It had only 75 processes running at bootup.

Got to love UAC popping up when renaming icons etc.. Not to mention HP Vista installs default with user not having ownership to the folders. So in order to do anything you first need to locate the hidden folder options, switch off simple file sharing, go through extra steps to regain ownership and then you can set rights to the folders.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2007, 06:05:26 PM »

75 is not as bad as it could have been, but still outrageous.

Also, the file owndership problem seems to be a general problem with Vista. I had the same exact problem with my OEM version of Vista Ultimate. I had to manually go through and find the folders and change the ownership.

715 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2007, 09:01:25 PM »

I just bought an HP business laptop for my wife. I got the business version so I could still get XP Pro instead of Vista. But even that has 53 processes running at boot on an almost fresh machine.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #11 on:** July 10, 2007, 06:23:08 AM »

That's not bad for HP. They usually have 65 processes in an XP machine.

dedalos · « **Reply #12 on:** July 11, 2007, 03:32:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Just in threads alone. XP Pro had about 220 in a normally cleaned up system. I managed to get Vista down to around 430 threads.

On XP Pro, it was pretty trivial to it down to about 19 processes. On Vista Ultimate I managed to get them down to 38.

My guess is OEM's such as HP/Compaq have around 80 processes running as default in Vista.

Well, I did better than that. I got them down to 24 i think. Nothing will help.

Dual boot XP was th eonly fix for it

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #13 on:** July 11, 2007, 05:12:29 PM »

Try disabling IPv6 that has caused some people network trouble in Vista.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2007, 05:59:22 AM »

I keep forgetting about IPv6.

dedalos, unfortunately, every computer configuration acts wildly different under Vista. That is a major source of frustration for anyone dealing with support for it.

On my box, Aces High II is stable and the frame rates, while not as good as with XP, are not too bad. Swap any component or driver and the whole system will probably become unstable.