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« Reply #150 on: July 15, 2007, 12:52:38 PM »
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One last question:

Should children be shot fer stealin? yer Lucky Charms?


I don't have nay lucky charms and I'm not a leprechaun. Children only do what you teach them to, and they don't do what you teach them not to. If a child steals, you whip him. Then if he does it again, you whip him again. He will learn not to. "Spare the rod and spoil the child." And it works, I've never seen it not. You don't beat him, you just whip him with a hickory switch. It don't hurt for very long, but it hurts enough they sure don't want it again. And they'll learn not to steal.

And I'm not this so called "beat1e", I've told you where you can check. If you don't want to, then fine, so be it. Just don't say anything aboot it again till you do check, cause when you do, you'll find I'm not lying.

And to Maverick: It usually is harder to live with something than to die with it. You live with it, it hurts you every day. It's a pain that won't go away. You kill them, they may go to Heaven, and they may go to Hell. But you don't know which, and you can't decide. If they go to Heaven, well, you just rewarded them. They no longer have to deal with the sufferings of this life. You can put a bullet in a man where it will hurt him every day for the rest of his life. And that barb wire beating sure won't go away to awful soon. I've seen men done that way, they remember every day that it happened. And a public whipping puts shame on you for the rest of your life as well, it's one of the worst things you can do to a proud man. It will almost break his spirit. And if it doesn't, it will take a while for those deeps cuts to heal. And he will always have the scars. It just depends on the severity of what he did how much you hurt him.

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« Reply #151 on: July 15, 2007, 01:46:09 PM »
mcfarland/beetle

You really need to get some help. Your trolls here are beyond silly and not terribly entertaining. It's time you went away again beetle.
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« Reply #152 on: July 15, 2007, 02:17:22 PM »
Mav, there's more difference between this avatar and beet than there were between two very similar users (Nuke and Godzilla) that weren't shades..
I'm not taking any conclusions about the person writing them, but as far as his posts are worth, he isn't "beetle".
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« Reply #153 on: July 15, 2007, 02:24:04 PM »
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I don't have nay lucky charms

Of course you don’t, the children stole them.  We’ve already gone over this.


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…and I'm not a leprechaun.

Yes you are.


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Children only do what you teach them to, and they don't do what you teach them not to. If a child steals, you whip him. Then if he does it again, you whip him again. He will learn not to. "Spare the rod and spoil the child." And it works, I've never seen it not.


This is where you are terribly confused.  Children have been stealing your Lucky Charms for decades; apparently you have been whipping them with a hickory switch all this time and yet they keep stealing the Charms from you.  Yet you say, “And it works I've never seen it not.”

Admit it; children will always steal your Lucky Charms because they are irresistible and magically delicious, despite how severely you beat them.  Ironically, the only way that you could actually stop the children from stealing your Lucky Charms would be to shoot them dead.  Dead children can’t steal yer Lucky Charms.  Despite how you come across as being so black and white on issues such as stealing, your own softness towards juvenile thieves has doomed you to a perpetual cycle of beatin children fer stealin yer Lucky Charms.  You could break the cycle and just start popin them with yer Lucky Gun, but you’re too much of a softie.

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« Reply #154 on: July 15, 2007, 02:29:16 PM »
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mcfarland/beetle

You really need to get some help. Your trolls here are beyond silly and not terribly entertaining.


I'm not trolling. I don't mean to entertain, I mean to inform or explain.

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It's time you went away again beetle.


And I'm not "beat1e".

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« Reply #155 on: July 15, 2007, 02:33:12 PM »
Who's beat1e?
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« Reply #156 on: July 15, 2007, 02:35:01 PM »
That's what they called him on the last page, now they call him "beetle".

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« Reply #157 on: July 15, 2007, 02:36:18 PM »
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Nope Mcfarland is either Mrblack come back as an Irishmen, or a short yellow bus rider.



He is the type of gun owner that makes gun owners look like ignorant redneck trash to normal people.


If it is beat1e its his greatest troll ever.


See? Now they call him "beetle" on this page. Or maybe it's just that everyone has a different name for him?

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« Reply #158 on: July 15, 2007, 03:05:41 PM »
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Perhaps because the second amendment allows citizens to protect the others?


Really? So when are they going to start protecting them?
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« Reply #159 on: July 15, 2007, 03:27:00 PM »
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crocket...  If I was worried about the first amendment I would for sure be more worried about democrats than republicans.  It is democrats who came up with "hate speech" and want to shut up radio talk show hosts and who say that so called "man made global warming" is too important to debate.

It is democrats who grow government with social programs that limit my freedom a lot more than republicans.

As for guns..  How do you defend yourself and your family and fellow citizens without em?  It is the most basic right of a free man.

If the democrats did not attack that right I wouldn't have to talk about it all the time... but they do.. they work night and day at chipping away at it.. they obsess  about it...

finestein has said... "if I could get 51 votes I would say mr and mrs America... turn them in... turn them all in.."

How do I deal with that?   Her idea, and most democrats of "responsible gun ownership" is no real ability to defend yourself at all.

I think everyone who is not insane or underage should be able to own any gun they want.   If the commit a crime with it they need to go to prison... when they get out they can have their gun back if they haven't been found to be insane.

I can't comprimise with democrats... I can't comprimise on basic rights... no... "hate speech" or banned words.. it is all 1984 crap.  helmet laws and seatbelt laws and public schools... it is all crap and it is all democrats leading the way.

Get em to quit trying to take my guns away and I will quit acting like it is the most important thing in my life.

Why aren't you telling them to knock it off?  why aren't you asking them why they are so obsessed?

They are the true gun nuts.. the ones who know nothing about guns but are obsessed with taking them away from their fellow citizens.

lazs


I guess you seemed to have forgotten about the right wing "hate" groups whom flooded the FCC offices with calls complaining about boobs and bad words on the TV and radio.

I also don't see many "liberals" protesting about gay people and not allowing them to have the same rights as a stright person. I imagine these same people if it were 50 or 60 years ago would be bashing black people insted of homosexuals today.

I also don't see many "liberals" protesting and trying to telling women that they have no right to do with their body as they choose.

Helmet laws and seatbelt laws are pretty much common sense.. I'm sorry if you have no comon sense to understand that. Seatbelt and helmet laws save lives and save states money. I guess we might as well get rid of the baby seat law too? I mean those damn liberals trying to protect ours kids from stupid parents.

You right wingers are always complaining about democrats wanting to raise taxes or this or that.. Well seatbelt laws have caused 45% reductions in fatal injury and 50% reductions in moderate-to-critical injuries. (stats from wikipedia)

That in turn saves states money because of un-insured motorist. You should be thanking a liberal for saving you your precious tax money.

btw as soon as the helmet law was made optional here in Florida (as long as you have insurance) motorcycle related  deaths went up. I guess you right wingers showed them Dem's.

A friend of mine had a guy run into the back of his car.. The guy was on a motorcycle wearing no helmet. My friend had a ladder on his roof.. The guy on the motorcycle's head hit the ladder and put a hole in his skull.

The guy lived but is permanently brain damaged, had he been waerning a helmet the guy wwould have suffred a few bruses and likely walked away from the crash as his main injuries were to his head.
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« Reply #160 on: July 15, 2007, 05:31:48 PM »
Think outside of the "you right-wingers/ you left-wingers" box.

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« Reply #161 on: July 15, 2007, 07:20:44 PM »
I have three children all under the age of 11 that look to me to protect them from all things that go bump in the night. I see two scenarios in my particular case. Finding someone in my yard up to no good. They will get a warning to leave unless I can confirm they are armed. If they're armed they get shot. Period. If they make any move other than running for their lives or their hands going up, they get shot. Period.

 If I ever find an intruder inside the confines of my home. They get shot. Period. First warning they get is the pain of a pistol round. I'm not giving someone time to get the drop on me where my family is concerned and I will /always/ assume an intruder in my home is there to cause physical harm.

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« Reply #162 on: July 16, 2007, 08:12:36 AM »
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Helmet laws and seatbelt laws are pretty much common sense.


Yes, it is common sense. It is a direct infringement on ones freedom to choose.
I fought the helmet law tooth and nail for many, many years here. You want to wear a helmet, wear it. I choose not to and don`t. It`s a matter of choice. I'm sorry if you have no common sense to understand that.  
What laws will you protest and how far are you willing to allow yourself and your freedom of choice to be stepped on? Mandatory mesh leggings when mowing your lawn? Outlaw boxing? Scissors only to be used by those holding a state or federal users license? Outlaw skydiving? Abolish the vote? Abolish personal freedom and rights all together?
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I guess we might as well get rid of the baby seat law too?

The question is why is an required built in on an adult seeking to become a parent? How about not having enough knowledge or trust in yourself as a parent to raise a child and just let everything to do with your kids be governed on a state and federal level? They know best...don`t they? Choice of reading..let the Feds decide?
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Well seatbelt laws have caused 45% reductions in fatal injury and 50% reductions in moderate-to-critical injuries. (stats from wikipedia)That in turn saves states money because of un-insured motorist. You should be thanking a liberal for saving you your precious tax money.


Have you decided on a cruise or possibly a new car  with the tax reduction savings and the rebate check?

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btw as soon as the helmet law was made optional here in Florida (as long as you have insurance) motorcycle related  deaths went up. I guess you right wingers showed them Dem's.


That one is so thin it`s see through. :)

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A friend of mine had a guy run into the back of his car.. The guy was on a motorcycle wearing no helmet. My friend had a ladder on his roof.. The guy on the motorcycle's head hit the ladder and put a hole in his skull. The guy lived but is permanently brain damaged, had he been waerning a helmet the guy wwould have suffred a few bruses and likely walked away from the crash as his main injuries were to his head


Hehe..................or..he could have been completely decapitated due to the helmet....or he could have broken his neck due to the helmet...........or he could have completely missed the ladder either way and been ran over and killed by a fire truck two blocks down the road. How about banning fire trucks....or possibly people carrying ladders on top of their cars? It`s evident they are dangerous. Man.....we could even take away the right of the individual to own and operate motor vehicles in general. Not much on the face of the earth more dangerous than everyday driving. At what point is too far? How much distrust do you have in yourself and are willing to turn things over to a higher authority for your won safety?

ooops...nearly forgot this one....

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I also don't see many "liberals" protesting about gay people and not allowing them to have the same rights as a stright person. I imagine these same people if it were 50 or 60 years ago would be bashing black people insted of homosexuals today.


Not to mention that there is no connection of any type with gays and blacks, let`s go with gays having the same rights as straight people. What rights are you speaking of and how far are you willing to go? A partnership contract won`t do it? It has to be marriage as such? Same tax breaks, the whole nine yards?
The drunk down the road gave up on women years ago. He does wish to marry his pig though. He should get the same benefits and perks as any other family ......shouldn`t he?
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« Reply #163 on: July 16, 2007, 08:46:52 AM »
crokett..  jackal pretty much answered you but a few things..

What did you do with that huge rebate the insurance company gave you when the seatbelt and helmet laws were passed?  

do you believe that freedom depends on money... that you can limit anything anyone does if it saves money for someone else?   How bout fatty foods?  How bout swimming?

I never had a baby seat or seatbelts... no one over the age of about 20 did.. it was a choice that people made... choice is the important thing in freedom... not your choice to tell people how to live.... or what risks they can take..  

And.. it costs you nothing.  you did not save a cent with the new laws.. it is all stats... I am even willing to pay a premium on my insurance to not wear seatbelts or a helmet.. just as smokers and private aviation people pay a premium on life insurance.

as for uninsured drivers...  that is totally different.   nothing to do with anything.  they are criminals..  

every fender bender and every scratch on a helmet these days if some yahoo like yours ticket to tell the "helmet/seatbelt saved my/my boyfriends life" story..  

as for a womans right to choose?  choose what?   the clothes she wears?  her purse?   or.. to kill another human?

gay rights? what ones are they missing?   they have all the same rights as everyone else... exactly the same...  why do they want extra rights?

as for racism... the democrats were the ones who fought against civil rights..  now that everyone has equal rights the republicans simply said... that is where it ends... no extra rights for any group based on race.

be a man... stand up to the womanly democrats and their nanny society.

lazs

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« Reply #164 on: July 16, 2007, 08:55:00 AM »
and... even at that... you act like lives saved from death by no seatbelt are the ultimate in savings..

the so called "uninsured" that you are so worried about eating into your hard earned medical insurance money (that you have not gotten a rebate on).

So has anyone done an analysis on how much that saved person costs us if he lives out his life?  he doesn't have not only car insurance.. he has no insurance at all.. what will his medical bills be for the new liver transplant or heart valve in 20 years... not to mention.. he has all the time in the world to hang out at hospital waiting rooms... not like you and I...

regardless... you need to go down the list... you could justify ending all swimming by the drownings... or... simply make it a law that you had to wear a lifejacket in every body of water.

The fatalities from head injuries in cars and on motorcycles is the same...if you die it is the same chance that it was from a head injury... do you advocate helmets in cars?   Oh wait... you wouldn't like that so... it goes too far?    

lazs