Author Topic: Texas State Lawmaker Opposing Deadly Force Bill Shoots Would-Be Thief (Read 4158 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #90 on:** July 13, 2007, 08:39:43 AM »

mcfarland.. glad to give you a chance to rant but I never said you were uneducated or a theif.

What I did say was that you are full of it and that you would not shoot a kid running away from your yard after stealing some minor item. some petty theft where the thief was no threat to you or anyone..

If you shot at him stealing your car it might even be a little different.. he is stealing a potentialy deadly weapon...

you would have to explain it to a jury in any case.. if you have a good case you will win.

As was said.. if you killed my kid while he was breaking into your home and threatening you.. I would bury him and tell you I was sorry... If you killed him because he wandered onto your land and picked up some interesting junk he thought was abandoned...

I would hunt you down and kill you and take MY chances with a jury.

lazs

Maverick · « **Reply #91 on:** July 13, 2007, 09:21:21 AM »

I'm sure that since mcfarland likes the idea of applying deadly force to a misdemeanor he would agree that shooting a domestic abuse violator would be the prudent thing to do. After all, striking their spouse / "significant other" can only lead to a life of desperate crime and gang land style killings. We must not allow that to happen so anyone who does cause physical injury in a case like that must be shot.

Shamus · « **Reply #92 on:** July 13, 2007, 09:27:37 AM »

I am going to start shooting tailgater's, after all, they are "assaulting" me.

shamus

VOR · « **Reply #93 on:** July 13, 2007, 12:30:25 PM »

People who take too long at the ATM are stealing my time while I wait behind them. Bang! I really hate that.

I even shot myself for it once.

McFarland · « **Reply #94 on:** July 13, 2007, 01:55:20 PM »

Criminals must learn that they chose the wrong path. If someone is stealing from me, I'll shoot him. It's me right to defend me property. I have no tresspassing signs up. That should tell them something right there. Disregard those, and you are a threat. Are you saying if someone went onto the White House lawn, and started walking around, he wouldn't be shot on sight? Because that's how it's supposed to be. If someone is on me property, I don't know if they are here to kill me, steal from me, or what. So I'm going to defend meself. And if they are stealing, they won't hesitate to kill me. So it's kill or be killed.

lazs2 · « **Reply #95 on:** July 13, 2007, 02:28:03 PM »

how many UPS drivers have you shot lately? Hope no one ever sends you flowers.

Thanks for the warning tho.. if I ever break down in your part of the country I will know not to go up to a house for help.

please... never leave your area.. I don't want your kind anywhere near me. You are a dangerous fruitcake or a troll. I am not sure which.

lazs

eskimo2 · « **Reply #96 on:** July 13, 2007, 02:46:05 PM »

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Originally posted by McFarland
Criminals must learn that they chose the wrong path. If someone is stealing from me, I'll shoot him. It's me right to defend me property. I have no tresspassing signs up. That should tell them something right there. Disregard those, and you are a threat. Are you saying if someone went onto the White House lawn, and started walking around, he wouldn't be shot on sight? Because that's how it's supposed to be. If someone is on me property, I don't know if they are here to kill me, steal from me, or what. So I'm going to defend meself. And if they are stealing, they won't hesitate to kill me. So it's kill or be killed.

Translation:

Children must be learn’in that tey chose the wrong path. If someone t’is stealing me Lucky Charms, I'll pop the lad in the bollocks with me Lucky Gun. It's me right to defend me property of Hearts, Stars, and Horseshoes, Clovers, Blue Moons, Pots of Gold, Rainbows, and me Red Balloons! I have no Lucky Trespassing signs up. That should tell em sometin right ter. They're Always After me Lucky Charms! Pay tem no mind, and you are a threat. Are you saying if someone went onto the Lucky White House lawn, and started walking around, he wouldn't be shot on sight? Right. Because tat's how it's posed ta be. If someone is on me Lucky Property, I don't know if they are here to kill me, steal me Lucky Charms from me, or what. So I'm going to defend meself. And if they are stealing, tey won't hesitate to kill me. So it's kill or have em steal me Lucky Charms.

Toad · « **Reply #97 on:** July 13, 2007, 03:06:53 PM »

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Originally posted by McFarland
Are you saying if someone went onto the White House lawn, and started walking around, he wouldn't be shot on sight?

No, I'm not saying that. The US Secret Service is saying someone walking around on the White House lawn would not be shot on sight.

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[WASHINGTON (CNN) Sunday, April 9, 2006-- A New Mexico man arrested for jumping the White House fence Sunday has been arrested for the same thing three times before, a Secret Service spokesman said.

In you misguided mind, he should have been shot each of the three times before.

But because the Secret Service has intelligent people working for them, with clear, intelligent guidelines, the loony was merely arrested.

Eric Zahren, a spokesman for the Secret Service, said "incidents like Sunday's are a "fairly regular" occurrence".

Fairly regular, yet the Secret Service hasn't racked up a McFarland-tall pile of bodies.

You know why? Because 99.9% of these clowns do not present an immediate threat of great bodily injury or death to anyone.

Something for you to ponder when you are playing your banjo.

McFarland · « **Reply #98 on:** July 13, 2007, 03:23:49 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
how many UPS drivers have you shot lately? Hope no one ever sends you flowers.

Thanks for the warning tho.. if I ever break down in your part of the country I will know not to go up to a house for help.

please... never leave your area.. I don't want your kind anywhere near me. You are a dangerous fruitcake or a troll. I am not sure which.

lazs

Nay, I didn't say you couldn't walk up the driveway, I said you couldn't be on me property. That means in the pastures, or walking around me house. You can come up and knock on me door. And I'll help you, but the pistol will be staying on me hip. I don't shoot people going down the road, nor walking up me driveway, as long as they stay in me driveway and don't go into the pastures or around me house.

Shuffler · « **Reply #99 on:** July 13, 2007, 03:40:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
How many of you really think deadly force is justified over the theft of a fishing rod?

How many of you KNOW that your state would not prosecute you?

Toad,

Please post your phone number so I can call you over if someone is stealing my stuff. I would appreciate you going out there and asking the perp to wait while you inventory his loot to see what he has and then break out the adding machine to get the dollar amount. Just think you may be saving an important useful life of a thief from some scum homeowner, like myself, with a gun.

PS Bring your own flashlight because your friend in my garage or yard may have already aquired mine.

Toad · « **Reply #100 on:** July 13, 2007, 03:50:41 PM »

Why would you want me to do that? Is there some dollar amount of property that is worth killing a man to protect? How many dollars does it take to make you pull the trigger? $5? $15? 25 cents?

From my cursory reading of Texas law, it may be permissible for you to shoot someone stealing your fishing rod.

Go right ahead; I don't have to live with it on my conscience, you do.

I suppose if you Texans catch some hungry man stealing your freshly baked apple pie off the window sill, you'll have no compunction about pumping a few .40 Short & Weaks into him from your pistol. Good for you!

I'm pretty sure I'd just let him have the apple pie.

McFarland · « **Reply #101 on:** July 13, 2007, 04:02:25 PM »

He' referring to you going out into harm's way to see if he is a thief or just there cause he is, which there is no reason for.

McFarland · « **Reply #102 on:** July 13, 2007, 04:05:13 PM »

If it was a starving man stealing an apple pie off a window sill, I'd probably help him out and let him keep the pie, and a good meal. I've been there. But I didn't steal anything. I just starved till the crops finally came in a week late.

SteveBailey · « **Reply #103 on:** July 13, 2007, 04:19:23 PM »

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Originally posted by McFarland
If it was a starving man stealing an apple pie off a window seal, I'd probably help him out and let him keep the pie, and a good meal. I've been there. But I didn't steal anything. I just starved till the crops finally came in a week late.

sill. A seal is the caulk around the window itself. You're welcome.

McFarland · « **Reply #104 on:** July 13, 2007, 04:24:09 PM »

Thankee.