Are HQ's to strong?

[battel gnome94]

i say HQ's are to strong because it takes 37 1000 lb to take it down but relly thats way to much i could se 20 or 30 thousand lb but 37 1000 lb relly to much.

[JB73]

30,000 is ok, but 37,000 is too much?

Just want to clarify that...


A fully loaded lancaster formation can carry 42,000 lbs (according to soda's reference page) of ordinance and a lone skilled bomber can personally ruin game play for an entire side.

if anything they should make HQ "stronger"


but that's just my opinion.

[battel gnome94]

ya true but wat about all the fightes and AA guns that could esayly distroy the bombers befor they get there

[Meatwad]

My brain hurts for some reason after reading this......

[Lusche]

As a destroyed HQ has (temporarily) the biggest impact on gameplay, it has to be the most difficult target to destroy.

[KTM520guy]

37k is too strong? HQ was built by the lowest bidder. Just think how strong it would be if it was built by someone who knew what they were doing.

[LYNX]

I copied this from another thread.  Oh, it was me that wrote it.



That 37,000 Lbs figure is 2 years out of date. If HQ ain't been hit you'll need 3 sets of Lancs carrying a total of 126,0000 Lbs. 5 sets of B24's or 5 sets B17's also kills HQ.

Others have argued that it is still 37K but only the middle or only 1 bomber actually hits HQ. Meaning HQ unlike other structures isn't effect by "blast radius". I've seen HQ taken out with 3 sets of Lancs. I've yet to see it taken out by 3 solo Lancs.



Anyone intrigued by what I've written feel free to prove me wrong

[JB73]

Originally posted by LYNX
Anyone intrigued by what I've written feel free to prove me wrong

I will say in the past while in-game in the MA you could bring up the arena settings and view them, just not change them. that is no longer possible, so unless HTC wants to divulge those numbers an actual "test" is not truly possibly due to the many variables in an online arena



a "direct" hit in the best possible alignment, trajectory, and grouping would not be that hard offline to test to see how much it takes exactly.

why not ask the bish, rooks, knits if you can unabated hit their HQ just as a test online and well...

[ROC]

200 targets strewn about the map and your worried about a single HQ?  It takes out Dar for crying out loud.

Look at how the strat works in game, focus on that.  You can do alot of damage taking out Troop Factories and Then taking out troops or other strat stuff.  Come on, get outta that box.

[Husky01]

Originally posted by ROC
200 targets strewn about the map and your worried about a single HQ?  It takes out Dar for crying out loud.

Look at how the strat works in game, focus on that.  You can do alot of damage taking out Troop Factories and Then taking out troops or other strat stuff.  Come on, get outta that box.

We have strats?


BTW first you wanna take the City(s) down to below 50% this slows down the re sup time to the other factories IE Troops Ack Ammo Radar etc. Then once the city is below 50% and the strats hit below 50% hit the troops and ord at the base they will stay down for a good 3 hours (I think)If there not re supped by anyone.
Of course its been so long since I did this kind of stuff Im sure theres something wrong with what I said.

(I used to do nothing but high alt bombing runs on strategic targets hehe.)

[Stoney74]

Originally posted by LYNX
Anyone intrigued by what I've written feel free to prove me wrong

I've done this in B-17's from 18,000 feet.  Not enough bombs to drop the HQ, but within the realm of possibility for Lancs.  If you slow down to a slow cruise speed for drop, punch off all 14 bombs with minimum delay, use a perfectly calibrated drop, and center the building in the sight at release, you can get the entire package to hit the building.  Not easy for your typical HQ raider, but possible.  The lower the altitude and slower the speed the tighter the dispersion of the bombs will be.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by battel gnome94
i say HQ's are to strong because it takes 37 1000 lb to take it down but relly thats way to much i could se 20 or 30 thousand lb but 37 1000 lb relly to much.

Welcome to 2005.

[Geary420]

Originally posted by JB73
I will say in the past while in-game in the MA you could bring up the arena settings and view them, just not change them. that is no longer possible, so unless HTC wants to divulge those numbers an actual "test" is not truly possibly due to the many variables in an online arena
 

You can still get into the arena settings offline or when hosting an H2H room so you could check it there.  AFAIK what you see default in there is the same as the arenas.  I would check it myself but the games not workin on my machine right now and I'm far too lazy to troubleshoot it.

[Spikes]

Originally posted by battel gnome94
ya true but wat about all the fightes and AA guns that could esayly distroy the bombers befor they get there

skome1 n3eds da sphell ch3cker.

[LYNX]

Originally posted by Geary420
You can still get into the arena settings offline or when hosting an H2H room so you could check it there.  AFAIK what you see default in there is the same as the arenas.  I would check it myself but the games not workin on my machine right now and I'm far too lazy to troubleshoot it.

what a good idea..... so i went and looked but couldn't find HQ listed anywhere.  It could be listed as a city building though but you would have to know which one.  Back to square one --------->  

Anyone intrigued by what I've written feel free to prove me wrong