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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2007, 08:51:29 PM »
Diablo,

It's a sad situation to be sure. Unfortunately there are all kinds of folks in the world. The good ones and the bad ones. They have always been there but unless it's close to you oe someone you know they slip past your notice. It's always something happening to someone else somewhere else. Don't just focus in on the bad folks and ignore the good ones out there. You won't see much about the good ones as they don't make the news much.
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2007, 09:15:22 AM »
eskimo.. that is sound advice but... cynical and can lead to an unhappy life.

If you end up trusting no stranger you are doomed.

I say trust but verify.  I am much more at ease and willing to help if I know I have a 340 PD .357 in my front pocket.

The world is full of bad people.. whole groups have gone feral.   In feral people country you need to be armed.

Between the feral ones and the zombies... not having a second amendment is tantamount to suicide by pollyanna.

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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2007, 10:11:06 AM »
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eskimo.. that is sound advice but... cynical and can lead to an unhappy life.

If you end up trusting no stranger you are doomed.

I say trust but verify.  I am much more at ease and willing to help if I know I have a 340 PD .357 in my front pocket.

The world is full of bad people.. whole groups have gone feral.   In feral people country you need to be armed.

Between the feral ones and the zombies... not having a second amendment is tantamount to suicide by pollyanna.

lazs


Not really.  It all comes down to choices: do you want to live in Mayberry or the hood?  Neither one guarantees that you will or won’t be robbed or killed.  The odds are, however, that you will like your neighbors in Mayberry and the most exciting thing that will happen in a given week is that Aunt Bea will bring you a pie.  In the hood, the odds are that someone’s going to die, and it won’t be from old age.  Choose Mayberry over the hood.  Mayberrys still exist, there aye many to choose from.

If you’re a teenager, choose joining a square dancing group over going to a slam dancing/rave.  Join the chess club instead of just hanging out with some stoners and looking for trouble.  

If you make these kinds of choices, you won’t need to be cynical at all.  Bad people will be the folks that you read about in the paper.

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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2007, 11:43:22 AM »
My deepest sympathy Diablo.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2007, 11:56:03 AM »
This is very sad, and it occurs all too often. I meself can see the way the world is changing. Younguns cussing, have no respect, and the parents no longer do anything aboot it. When I was young, you said that, you became a red striped zebra from the hickory switch. Did a person good. That's part of what's wrong today. I am very sorry for this, words cannot express me condolences. To kill an ederly citizen should warrant hanging, but, alas, it is not the world it was 60 years ago.

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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2007, 11:59:28 AM »
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Not really.  It all comes down to choices: do you want to live in Mayberry or the hood?  Neither one guarantees that you will or won?t be robbed or killed.  The odds are, however, that you will like your neighbors in Mayberry and the most exciting thing that will happen in a given week is that Aunt Bea will bring you a pie.  In the hood, the odds are that someone?s going to die, and it won?t be from old age.  Choose Mayberry over the hood.  Mayberrys still exist, there aye many to choose from.

If you?re a teenager, choose joining a square dancing group over going to a slam dancing/rave.  Join the chess club instead of just hanging out with some stoners and looking for trouble.  

If you make these kinds of choices, you won?t need to be cynical at all.  Bad people will be the folks that you read about in the paper.


Very good advice. I am glad to live in a nearly Mayberry place. Except for the crooked cops, we are good here.

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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2007, 01:15:40 PM »
Hi Diablo,

Before I even begin to try to answer your very good question, please let you aunt know she has my sincere sympathy and the family of her murdered boss will be in my prayers. I’ve been hearing many similar stories of late, of people whose lives were suddenly and tragically ended when neither they nor anyone around them would have expected. As I was driving back yesterday from a visit with a desperately ill person, I reflected on the truth of the words of another Pastor that particularly startled me when I first heard them: think of the sickest person you know, and then think on this - you have no guarantee that you will live longer than that person. It just may be that right now you are living your last moments here on earth. Remembering that caused me to think of a portion of Psalm 39 and to pray after the Psalmist: "LORD, make me to know my end, And what is the measure of my days, That I may know how frail I am. Indeed, You have made my days as handbreadths, And my age is as nothing before You; Certainly every man at his best state is but vapor. Selah Surely every man walks about like a shadow; Surely they busy themselves in vain; He heaps up riches, And does not know who will gather them. "And now, Lord, what do I wait for? My hope is in You. (Psalm 39:4-7)

Anyway, I’ll try to give an answer to your question in a little while (God willing of course ;) ) but I have a bulletin I absolutely have to get finished in the next hour…

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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2007, 01:44:52 PM »
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Oogly50,

A bit of advice from a middle aged man: Stay as far away from bad people as possible; it really decreases the odds of getting tangled in bad stuff.




i got tangled in that once thought they want ted me to kill some o ebut i didn't the next day i was jumped srry about aunt :(





no pffense to oogly but **** the gut who did it

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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2007, 02:04:50 PM »
I'm sorry for the loss.  Its sad to say you really can't tell who's bad and good these days.  The guys in the suits are just as bad as the thugs on the corner with full body prison tattoos.  The 12 year old kids that can barely ride a bike are  as twisted as the 48yr old in the psych ward.  Its a harsh reality, but it reminds you to keep your family and friends close and dont worry about the petty arguments.  I would say though, I don't think the world is that much worse than it ever has been just different ways of doing crimes and those crimes can be easily heard about through the media and instant access.

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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2007, 02:06:32 PM »
I can pick the single word in the story that easily explains why it happened, but I'm not drunk enough (yet) to get banned for racism.
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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2007, 02:16:11 PM »
eskimo.. your advice is still good... I have no problem with it except that the reality of the situation is that bad people will come to you or... be put their by your socialist government.

We have section 8 housing everywhere here where the worst of the worst (along with some ok folks) are put into nice neighborhoods at no expense to them.

I helped one move a piano out of his truck the other day.. he was a negro with stupid hair and stupid clothes but.. he spoke real American english so I thought I might give him a hand.

smiles all around.. everyone behaved... no one got shot.

I simply feel that I am need to have as much control as possible when it comes to happy endings with encounters with my fellow man.

An armed society is a polite one.

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« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2007, 03:38:39 PM »
Hi again Diablo,

As to your question, “Why does this kind of thing keep happening? and why, as others have noted, does our society seem to be becoming more and more coarse, uncivil, uncaring, and violent? Why is the family falling apart and why are our children turning out so poorly? (All of these factors are of course related, each factor affects the others.) Well, I’m neither a prophet, nor the son of a prophet, but I know that my answer to that particular question is not going to be very popular. But hey, I’d rather attempt to tell the truth and be hated (as the prophets of the Old Testament were when they exposed the corruption of their society), than peddle comforting lies so that men would like me. The answer is not race, nor economics, nor a lack of firearms, the answer is that our society has sown the wind for many years and is now reaping the whirlwind, we’ve been traveling steadily down a broad path that leads to destruction, and we are gradually drawing near and nearer to our destination.

We began that journey when we self-consciously chose to cast off all biblical moorings and decided that we could build a society based only upon what was right in our own eyes. We conned ourselves into believing that all men were basically good at heart and that with the benefits of a little education we could create a utopian paradise here on earth. That process started in the 19th century when we began to teach that man could dispense with revealed religion and be guided by reason alone even in the realm of ethics. As time went on though, and the “every man his own god” spirit prevailed, the idea of any unified body of absolute ethics began to degenerate until in the 1960s the last fragments of the Christian ethics inherited from their parents were dispensed with and the idea of positive law and situational ethics became the norm in our society. Since that time we have seen a precipitous rise in every indicator of social decay, (crime, murder, rape, divorce, teen pregnancy, abortion, addiction, etc.) and every year our children look and act more like pirates and prostitutes and yet we continue to tell ourselves that what we need most is more of the same poison that has been killing us for the last 100 years, and that the real enemies of our brave new world are the people who say that only a return to the Word of God will stop the slide. Like Israel before the Babylonian conquest, we’d still rather embrace the idols that are destroying us, than humble ourselves and turn back to the living God. In our version of the “Emperor’s New Clothes” the little boy who points out that the Emperor is naked gets a sound beating and the obscene parade continues.

The words of Jer. 6:16-19 seem to be just as applicable to us in our time as they were to ancient Israel:

“Thus says the LORD: "Stand in the ways and see, And ask for the old paths, where the good way is, And walk in it; Then you will find rest for your souls. But they said, 'We will not walk in it.' Also, I set watchmen over you, saying, 'Listen to the sound of the trumpet!' But they said, 'We will not listen.' Therefore hear, you nations, And know, O congregation, what is among them. Hear, O earth! Behold, I will certainly bring calamity on this people -- The fruit of their thoughts, Because they have not heeded My words, Nor My law, but rejected it.”

To paraphrase the Apostle Paul, claiming to be wise we have become fools, and are now doing things that even the deists of 200 years ago would have called wicked and socially suicidal. Is there hope for us individually and nationally? I know there is, that is one of the reasons I preach the Gospel of Grace, but without repentance, faith in Christ, and a humbling of ourselves it will never happen – and I speak as one who was walking in that broad path, and who had to have his own foolish pride broken. My hope is that there will be revival and reformation in this land, before we go the way of every decadent and proud empire that has gone before us.

Anyway, there is more I could say, but space and time constraints prevent it.

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« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2007, 03:59:15 PM »
I believe the answer to why things have got worse is primarily because of "political correctness",think about it. Hey, I could be way off. Just my two cents and I'm very sorry about what happened.

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« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2007, 04:22:21 PM »
I beleive the answer to why things are getting worse is that we are near the end of days.

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« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2007, 04:27:02 PM »
Yes! MORE religious fanatics is what we need!