Originally posted by Angus
BTW, we can have automatic shotguns with up to 5 shots
Semi.
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Yes I would also say when you see this trend that it should be looked into, but not for the reasons that the article would have you to believe. There is obviously a problem. The problem would be with the load of horse droppings that were fed to the media and lapped up, printed with all the attention grabbing quotes, BUT..............excluding actual details and their bearings on anything.
Guns linked to crime"------"By the ATF". Number one, if you haven`t noticed that the ATF is not on the cutting edge of being on the up and up with the public, then you have either been in a cave or the closet the last few years.
Number two, "Guns linked to crime" can mean just about anything if you are in the market for some eye grabbers for the press and leave out the details. For instance , guns linked to crime can also mean that some of these guns could have been taken into evidence as the result of a legal gun owner protecting himself, family and property.
The article also sort of leads one to think that just because a gun store is not in a heavily populated area and is not a large chain of some sort that there should be some suspicion on the stores practices if they sell a large number of guns. That`s not much of a rocket science formula there to figure why a local store, in a less populated area would sell a large number of guns. This is usualy where the best ranges can be found, the most people in general who have ready access to gun sports of any type and the best hunting areas. They get sort of touchy about you setting a tree stand up on a traffic light pole.
Also what should be looked at that was left out is "why" all of the recent flurry by the ATF and exactly "what" they are doing, not what they want the press to print. Such as ,some of these violations that they are throwing out as being so important and making such a big deal out of, are no more than a non capital error or citing for not having complete information, according to them, on forms that haven`t enough room or space to include this.
Why are they so intent on the relatively small, local gun store? Could it possibly be that this is where you usualy find the folks with the most savvy concerning gun owners rights and keeps up with what is and what isn`t being done by the gov agencies such as ATF concerning rights violations, etc. ?
If you haven`t noticed the ATF is not a big fan of personal freedom , the 2nd amendment and the right to each individuals to keep and bear arms for personal or civil defense. They take the approach that government agencies (tax), such as themselves should be the only ones armed. Then, even at that, they don`t believe they are bound by the same laws as the general public. All those little technical, fine print, details such as "Does the address on the search warrant match the actual residence of where they are intending to crash in at midnight?", gets tiring and boring until some legal and innocent gun owner hears and sees armed intruders crashing their door down while their family is asleep and takes action to protect them. Why would a person in the general population wish to have a means in which to protect his family and feel that government might take a wrong turn without these rights? More importantly, why does these agencies fear the people?
It`s much more impressive for very attention grabbing media flare to go in cameras rolling, black clad, armed like you are rolling in a hot LZ than it would to wait till the suspect person, or persons, in question exits the same residence in the morning and then do a stop, detain and straighten the matter out without all the flare , doesn`t it? Well it does until your media induced Rambo raid blows up in your face, you have agents down ..............and the public is wishing you to address all the rights violations, etc.
Reread the importance put on the "straw purchaser" in the article. Look at where the actual flaw is. Is it with the gun shop owner? Nope. OK.....your wife,girlfriend, aunt, sister or any female that you are trusted and known by feels a need to purchase a firearm. Either for concerns over self protection or just getting interested in shooting sports. They know you are knowledgeable and experienced in firearms. They come to you for advise and guidance. You walk them through their needs and come to an agreement on a couple different possibilities for the. Off you go to make the purchase. You walk in, ask some questions, get prices, inspect the firearms available for your female friend or family member and decide that they have what would be best for her. Decision is made to purchase, you place the firearm back on the counter or give it back to the salesman for boxing. Done deal. Female steps in and tells the salesman that the firearm is for her and she will fill out the paper work in her name. Straw Purchaser????? Who`s left to make the decision to sale or to reject due to suspicion? Where`s the flaw and where does the liability fall?
More left out of the article than what is put in for media flash.
