Author Topic: How Close did Tu95s get during/after Cold War? (Read 3230 times)

Elfie · « **Reply #90 on:** July 20, 2007, 01:31:42 PM »

Interesting piece of info that I remembered the other day but forgot to post.

That F-15A with the tail number 74-105 no longer exists. If my memory is correct, airframe 74-105 was destroyed in Alaska when the pilot managed to put it into a flat spin with only 6000 feet between him and the ground. He successfully ejected with 3000 AGL and parachuted down within 100 yards of the pancaked F-15.

This incident did occur and I'm 99% sure it was 74-105.

Boroda · « **Reply #91 on:** July 20, 2007, 01:35:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
I just saw on the news that its the third night in a row now that norwegian f16s have scrambled to "escort" russian bears. They are going down our coast juuuust outside our border and down to britain. Me thinks the recent russian/british diplomatic crisis is the reason.

LOL. British Foreign Minister advising Russian Federation to change it's Constitution to extradite it's citizen to the UK's "justice" that gave asylum to known Chechen terrorists is beyond the margin between good and evil

I see this Bears saying "PREVED!!!" to Brits

There are also some Tu-160s involved, that's a real "preved", someone has to wash his pants

Our new defense minister is an interesting guy. Former taxman. Suddenly it turned out that we have enough money for fuel and other stuff to train and say "preved" to our Western friends

Nilsen · « **Reply #92 on:** July 20, 2007, 01:40:12 PM »

what does "preved" mean?

Maverick · « **Reply #93 on:** July 20, 2007, 02:03:16 PM »

You probably have to run it through a russian english vodka dictionary.

Nilsen · « **Reply #94 on:** July 20, 2007, 02:18:43 PM »

LOL!

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #95 on:** July 20, 2007, 05:05:14 PM »

Whats the real symbology of Russia sending ancient bombers down international waters? We've seen how even the U.S. is still in a defensive mode against that type of attack (during 9/11 all of our jets were taking up positions out at sea to intercept bombers and cruise missles). These aircraft would have very little chance of causing any damage.

So really, if Russia wanted to make an actual gesture, they would need a semi-modern aircraft to perform these maneuvers with. Even their decrepit Tu-160s would be better for a political statement.

Jebus · « **Reply #96 on:** July 20, 2007, 05:12:05 PM »

God does Russia copy every plane we make. The Tu-160 looks like the B-1.

Get your own airplane ideas!:furious

Nilsen · « **Reply #97 on:** July 20, 2007, 05:58:36 PM »

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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Whats the real symbology of Russia sending ancient bombers down international waters? We've seen how even the U.S. is still in a defensive mode against that type of attack (during 9/11 all of our jets were taking up positions out at sea to intercept bombers and cruise missles). These aircraft would have very little chance of causing any damage.

So really, if Russia wanted to make an actual gesture, they would need a semi-modern aircraft to perform these maneuvers with. Even their decrepit Tu-160s would be better for a political statement.

Well the planes themselves are only platforms. Its their long range cruise missiles that has a sting.

AKIron · « **Reply #98 on:** July 20, 2007, 08:46:46 PM »

They never got close enough to steal our bodily fluids!

Furball · « **Reply #99 on:** August 21, 2007, 01:15:12 PM »

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/MilitaryOperations/TyphoonLaunchesOperationallyForTheFirstTime.htm

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1280809,00.html

Eurofighter Typhoon has had its first scramble

Nilsen · « **Reply #100 on:** August 21, 2007, 01:31:30 PM »

WTF EF

Both good looking aircraft, but actually i think the Bear is just a notch better looking

Maybe in a few years time the EF will win the competition for our next fighter over the JSF and Gripen, and that sight will be rather common.

croduh · « **Reply #101 on:** August 21, 2007, 03:39:54 PM »

Can someone give me the price comparison between Ef and Gripen?
Croatia is about to choose between used f-16s and gripens, but i wonder ehy is the ef not an option, is it way more expensive than the gripen?

I know that there are other things than raw price, but i am still interested?

Nilsen · « **Reply #102 on:** August 21, 2007, 03:43:28 PM »

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Originally posted by croduh
Can someone give me the price comparison between Ef and Gripen?
Croatia is about to choose between used f-16s and gripens, but i wonder ehy is the ef not an option, is it way more expensive than the gripen?

I know that there are other things than raw price, but i am still interested?

EF is alot more expencive than the CURRENT Gripen and F16, and also abit more expencive than the future Gripen N that we have been offered.

-edit- oh and there are no fixed prices for any jets/military hardware on this level. They are all part of package and various buyback deals that are individual to each customer. You need to know _all_ the numbers to find a unit price and that is not supposed to be easy

WilldCrd · « **Reply #103 on:** August 21, 2007, 04:21:05 PM »

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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Whats the real symbology of Russia sending ancient bombers down international waters? We've seen how even the U.S. is still in a defensive mode against that type of attack (during 9/11 all of our jets were taking up positions out at sea to intercept bombers and cruise missles). These aircraft would have very little chance of causing any damage.

So really, if Russia wanted to make an actual gesture, they would need a semi-modern aircraft to perform these maneuvers with. Even their decrepit Tu-160s would be better for a political statement.

Its the long range cruise missiles that when launched drop to NOE get to target pop up detonate and anybody NOT searing UV 50000 sunblock had a really bad day!

Plus old russian philosophy is to send HUGe numbers and "some" will get to launch range.
IMNSHO western propaganda for years had toted russia's inability to match us tech wise. However with the advent of the internet and the freerer sharing of info out of russia, any fight between Us and them would be damned ugly. Its been said that in any engagement of conventional forces that tactical nukes would be used. Both sides consider this still a viable option as the yeild is less than a strategic thermonuclear party favor.
Unless ofcourse your the grunt on the ground or the poor SOB a few miles downwind

Vulcan · « **Reply #104 on:** August 21, 2007, 04:34:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Furball
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/MilitaryOperations/TyphoonLaunchesOperationallyForTheFirstTime.htm

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1280809,00.html

Eurofighter Typhoon has had its first scramble

Hey is the Eurofighter escorting an old warbird to an airshow or something?