Originally posted by lazs2
Hortlund.. interesting study... even more interesting graph.. it shows one measure of suns activity... and indicator at that.. not even real activity and... it shows a very tiny slice of time... If you look at a graph that shows hundreds of years and if you show it on a scale that is not hundredths of a degree (you couldn't on a large scale) you would see that the tiny little blip they show is just that.. a tiny little blip.
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And still that tiny little blip disproves your preferred explanation model. Aint life a *****? Im not sure you understand that it does however, but thats probably something you should take up with the grade school you went to.
If you are saying that it can't be the sun because of the tiny little blip then how do you say it is co2 when there are huge areas where co2 is rising and temp is falling.... you can't have it both ways and... the suns activity is always leading the temp rise or fall.
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Now, Im not expecting you to understand the following, but I shall type it out anyway.
Among many other factors the ocean has an important control on CO2 concentrations which is why alag of a couple of hundred years is no surprise. During the change from cold glacial to warm interglacial conditions it’s not CO2 which is moving first and somehow driving primarily the system.
So, in laymans terms, CO2 does not
trigger the warmings, but it
contributes to them, and Greenhouse Gas forcing (thats the CO2) is the largest factor in the ultimate change.
Feel free not to understand what I just said, and just pull something out of context from my quote.
I say the chart proves we are about to go into a global cooling cycle... I say the "scientists" know it and are panicked to get "something done" so that they can take credit for the sun...
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Yeah, but you dont know what the heck you are talking about.
ITS THE SUN STUPID
lazs
Remove the sun and there will be no weather or global warming because there will be no radiation for the atmosphere to trap. If you have no solar radiation, then you can change the atmosphere to whipped cream if you like, it wont matter. So yes, its definitively the sun.
However, if you remove the atmosphere of a planet you change how much heat the planet can trap. Similarly, if you change the composition of the atmosphere you can change how much heat it can trap. Depending on how you change it, the planet will be able to trap more or less heat.
This study shows that the heat available from the sun is not corresponding with the increased heat on Earth. Or to put it in laymans terms. Its getting warmer on Earth without a corresponding increase in solar output.
Since the solar output is not increasing, and the temperature on Earth is increasing, that means that what has changed is how much heat from the sun is trapped by the Earths atmosphere and that is the cause of the increased temperature on Earth. And, like I said earlier, the amount of heat trapped is changed by the composition of the atmosphere.
Which brings us to our atmosphere. We know that the composition of the atmosphere has changed over the past years, we know that these changes mean that more heat gets captured, we know that the temperature on Earth is rising, and now we can also confirm that this is not caused by an increased solar output.
Now, there you have it lasz. There you have the explanation. Every time you say its the sun, I will post this little explanation as a reply to that post of yours. I will even include a little counter, so we can all see how many times you must read this reply before you understand it.
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