Author Topic: Question for those that Duel (Read 2520 times)

Fianna · « **Reply #75 on:** July 22, 2007, 08:36:02 PM »

I feel that way in the Jug. Every other plane I feel great in, but the Jug feels different, especially in rolling scissors.

Husky01 · « **Reply #76 on:** July 22, 2007, 08:43:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Fianna
I feel that way in the Jug. Every other plane I feel great in, but the Jug feels different, especially in rolling scissors.

I feel at home in it

WldThing · « **Reply #77 on:** July 22, 2007, 10:07:17 PM »

This topic kinda reminds me of the good ole "Waste ammo before the merge" in essence of being lighter..

I've seen some awkward techniques, your's as well Lute... And your situation especially, is unacceptable.

And as someone posted earlier it's not a HO after initial merge if I can turn faster than you and get that early opportunity to blow you out of the sky. Even though you may not agree, that's the way it's always been in the virtual skies of Aces High.

SkyRock · « **Reply #78 on:** July 22, 2007, 10:45:16 PM »

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Originally posted by WldThing
This topic kinda reminds me of the good ole "Waste ammo before the merge" in essence of being lighter..

I've seen some awkward techniques, your's as well Lute... And your situation especially, is unacceptable.

And as someone posted earlier it's not a HO after initial merge if I can turn faster than you and get that early opportunity to blow you out of the sky. Even though you may not agree, that's the way it's always been in the virtual skies of Aces High.

heyas wildthng, gimme shout when your on again, we'll go a few in DA. I think I need to knock off some rust too!:aok

Mark

humble · « **Reply #79 on:** July 23, 2007, 09:41:46 AM »

I'm far far from the best "dueler" {or stick in general} commenting here so I'm trying to word this carefully:) . To me your assessing your 2nd "move" while your merging. Often I see the "other guy" tightening up a losing scenario to "force" a HO. Now normally I'll convert to an E fight and I'll take the fight out of plane and up to suck whatever E the guy has left...since its actually a "safer" fight vs the joust. On the other hand if your facing a really good stick then your caught in a catch 22...is he really slightly out of plane...is he looking to "sucker" an attempted HO...is he looking to one time you on a crossing FQ shot as he forces a rolling vertical scissors?

Once you get beyond the initial merge all this BS (and thats what I consider it) simply is forcing a guy to fight someone elses way. Now all that being said Bat and I fly our "duels" .303 or 7mm only...that eliminates all this and forces a "saddle up" kill. If we fly with all guns then we both knowthe difference between "a FQ shot" and one that isnt...often we fly them either way since often one or both of us is "giving" a FQ snapshot in exchange for a positional advantage...if the other guy always passes on that shot and you are in fact actually giving a good look then you get hosed....so I always tell Bat if its there take it...or how do I know I messed it up that badly?

Now this is far from the original question...that conduct is simply bush league. However I never let that bother me. I'll give anyone 3k on me and it makes zero difference in the outcome 90% of the time. Very few people are going to beat me because they have alt...and I'm going to beat very few folks for that reason. God knows it doesnt help me with blukitty (or a few others). It simply isnt a duel however and if you expect an "even" fight you'll make a mistake since your not reading it as a neg E defense...

Hawco · « **Reply #80 on:** July 23, 2007, 10:13:33 AM »

Only been in the DA twice/3 times, once I came across Creton- good guy and a good stick- he pwned me in secs, second time I came across zipcode guy, went level etc, his mate sneaks up, shoots me, damaged the elevator, zipcode guy then puts a few rounds in and he gets the "kill"
Gave the DA a miss after that.

Speed55 · « **Reply #81 on:** July 23, 2007, 10:28:38 AM »

These are the basic rules of dueling as i know them.

Set merge altitude. If it's 3k, then you can not go above that altitude until after the first merge.

Once in icon range you can dive as low as you want for speed.

The first merge is guns cold.

After the first merge, all rules are gone.

I used to not take the "ho" or deflection shot on the 2nd merge, but lost many duels because of it, so now i do. Seemed like every time i would hold fire, i'd end up with a pilot wound, or smoked engine, or lost wing, because my opponent didn't hesitate to take the shot.