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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #60 on: July 27, 2007, 12:08:25 PM »
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Eagler: The first step is always to dehumanize the enemy.  Now, you can do things you otherwise wouldn't, like kill their children, because "they'll just grow up to be more enemies".  Is that your assertion?


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If someone is of the mindset that blowing up a bus/cafe/night club of innocent ppl is to be praised and admired - they are not "human" to me as the nazis running the gas chambers were not imo "human" either

if they brainwash their children into thinking they need to live long enough to strap a bomb on themselves and blow up peaceful women and children, then they signed the death warrants on their kids, I did not.
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« Reply #61 on: July 27, 2007, 12:10:23 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, Eagler, but it sounds as if you're essentially advocating a type of genocide/pogrom.  I can't see how killing 5 year old children is anything but morally abhorrent.
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« Reply #62 on: July 27, 2007, 12:33:53 PM »
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We killed all the ones in Afghanistan, the rest  ran across the border into Pakistan...and yup, Saddam kept a tight leash on Iraq, but it's not like they would LEAVE if we quit--the ensuing slaughter would be our fault and no one else's, and Sally Struthers could beg to feed the children...it would be wonderful



We did?  Better tell it to that Norwegian, French and British soldier that were just killed a couple of days ago.


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« Reply #63 on: July 27, 2007, 12:56:40 PM »
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Correct me if I'm wrong, Eagler, but it sounds as if you're essentially advocating a type of genocide/pogrom.  I can't see how killing 5 year old children is anything but morally abhorrent.


The Islamic cheekboness are the ones pushing for genocide of the Jewish ppl
I'm not advocating anything, just saying when the heart of a child is turned to stone it is not the heart of a child.
Makes you wonder about the women and children that are killed when Israel takes down a building to get to the terrorist that are living there. Pictures like the one above and many. many others on the net somehow make those tragedies easier to swallow..
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« Reply #64 on: July 27, 2007, 01:58:45 PM »
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Correct me if I'm wrong, Eagler, but it sounds as if you're essentially advocating a type of genocide/pogrom.  I can't see how killing 5 year old children is anything but morally abhorrent.


tell that to the islamofacists, go ahead, tell them.:furious
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« Reply #65 on: July 27, 2007, 02:21:12 PM »
John9001, it sounds as if you're suggesting we set our moral compass by the actions of those we abhor.
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« Reply #66 on: July 27, 2007, 03:06:00 PM »
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John9001, it sounds as if you're suggesting we set our moral compass by the actions of those we abhor.


i'm suggesting you give your moral guidance to the terriorsts, not us. Tell them to stop killing kids.
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« Reply #67 on: July 27, 2007, 03:09:33 PM »
You've just advocated killing their kids, and you've defended it.  Now, you're trying to change the subject, that suggests a certain squirreliness on the subject.  

Tell me, if a 5 year old boy is standing in front of you, and you know that he's been told that when he grows up, he should martyr himself, would you aim and fire your rifle into his little body?

If your arguments are internally consistent and you're not trying to weasel out of things, the answer should be a clear "yes".
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« Reply #68 on: July 27, 2007, 03:32:30 PM »
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You've just advocated killing their kids, and you've defended it.  Now, you're trying to change the subject, that suggests a certain squirreliness on the subject.  

Tell me, if a 5 year old boy is standing in front of you, and you know that he's been told that when he grows up, he should martyr himself, would you aim and fire your rifle into his little body?

If your arguments are internally consistent and you're not trying to weasel out of things, the answer should be a clear "yes".


I think you're wrong. He clearly said you should tell the terrorists to stop killing children. You might want to see it differently, since he doesn't agree with you. But I can't see where he said he'd advocate killing children. It just isn't there.
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« Reply #69 on: July 27, 2007, 03:42:50 PM »
No, you're right, it was Eagler who described children with a "heart turned to stone" that could be killed with a clear conscience.  Sorry John9001, I mixed you two up, and that wasn't fair.
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« Reply #70 on: July 27, 2007, 03:58:31 PM »
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No, you're right, it was Eagler who described children with a "heart turned to stone" that could be killed with a clear conscience.  Sorry John9001, I mixed you two up, and that wasn't fair.


Again, I do not think Eagler is advocating killing children. I think he's advocating dealing with the people who would teach a child to do that by whatever means necessary.

By the way, it was common, and accepted, during World War II, to dehumanize the Nazis and the Japanese soldiers. I'm not at all convinced it was a bad thing, either. And I certainly do not think the terrorists are any better an example of human being than Hitler, Tojo, or any of the others.
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« Reply #71 on: July 27, 2007, 05:01:54 PM »
If the Taliban could, they would be worse than Hitler ever thought about being.
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« Reply #72 on: July 27, 2007, 08:13:08 PM »
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We did?  Better tell it to that Norwegian, French and British soldier that were just killed a couple of days ago.


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That was my point...they lick their wounds in Pakistan, Spring comes, they run across the border into Afghanistan, blow watermelon up, and run back across the border. Can you say Cambodia?
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« Reply #73 on: July 28, 2007, 01:51:34 PM »
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« Reply #74 on: July 28, 2007, 02:28:55 PM »
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John9001, it sounds as if you're suggesting we set our moral compass by the actions of those we abhor.


Exactly, it is all they understand... fight fire with even hotter fire.
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